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Sunday, March 9th, 2025   |   137 comments

If You Think Maggie Is. Is Getting A Sludge Dump Pineapple, Wait Until You Hear About Paluma

The problem is similar but for Paluma, the effects are immediate and on-going –  virtually isolated for months after recent floods – all because of the nanny state lunacy of competing government departments.

And another after-the-event insult to Magnetic Island residents, as the TCC seems to want to justify its dump actions as not their fault.

The Bulletin follies of the week (as usual) …

… and further proof that when you go to court, even if acquitted, you never get full justice.

Bit of a short Nest this week, minor medical matters have kept The ‘Pie off his game for a few days,  but all good now. Of course, a helping hand donation to assist with nest costs would add some extra cheers to the old bird’s recovery. The appropriate button is at the bottom of the blog.

 Hope The SWAT Team Has been Alerted

This will be interesting.

File under Bolted, Horses Dept of.

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You will note the word ‘information’.  The council has been exposed here in the Nest in their lie about ‘community consultation’,  which was a straight-out, devious lie, because the Kelly Street project had been pre-decided between the council and Brisbane before such a meeting was organised.

Two hours seems overly long time to simply tell whoever shows up that ‘We will do what we want and don’t care what you think,  Clr Greaney went to a lot of trouble to get the government permissions organised secretly behind your backs to approve the Kelly St dump,  so if you don’t like it, you can always go fuck yourselves.’

But there was an interesting development during the week, where a regular Nest commenter calling herself/himself (who knows nowadays?) Jenny Kennet outed themselves as a Townsville Council apologist – paid or unpaid but definitely a plant, evidenced by the lightning fast access to official information and documents. Jenny’s latest post was full of detailed and apparently correct info, but the underlying message was clear: this ain’t the council’s fault, they are being bullied into approving the Kelly St dump disaster as a precursor to further unpopular management moves.

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What happens ‘down the track’ is what ratepayers are being softened up for. The Nelly Bay harbour is under two jurisdictions. The main harbour with ferry and barge landings and boat ramp is state government Transport and Main Roads (TMR) and remains part of the federal GBR Marine Park. The internal (‘keyhole’) marina and Gustav Creek ‘canal estate’ with pontoons extending into the water is outside the Marine Park and is Council responsibility. Council states on its website that “recent hydrographic surveys show maintenance dredging is required to restore the canal sections to their original design depths”. Hence the dredging plan.

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But the issue of sedimentation extends into the main harbour as well – not only from outflows from the two creeks that feed into the harbour and the migration of beach sand under the breakwater access bridge, but from the massive erosion that has taken place during cyclone events over the past twenty years as waves overtopped the breakwater displacing armour rock, lifting sections of concrete footpaths and shifting large areas of exposed spoil material off the back of the breakwater into the harbour basin. In due course this state-controlled area will need to be dredged to “restore the original design depths” in the approaches to the boat ramp and around the ferry and barge swing basin.

How convenient will it be for the state government to have elbowed TCC into establishing a permanent dredge spoil processing facility on community land in Nelly Bay so that when it comes time to dredge the main harbour, a much larger undertaking than the present one, the state can make use of the cheap and nasty dump site at Kelly Street.

Where is the state member for Townsville on this issue and will he bring news of his government’s response to the Community Information Session on the 15th? After all, the Port of Townsville has established a dredge spoil reclamation area for this exact purpose on the mainland but it also maintains a sea-dumping site in Cleveland Bay which, apparently, could be used for disposal of Nelly Bay spoil.

If You Think Maggie Is Having Bureaucratic Nightmares, Spare A Thought For The Folks Up Paluma Way
It’s bureaucratic lunacy worthy of Kafka.
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Landslides and rock falls have blocked the main links to Paluma, but now, one angry resident claims there are bureaucratic inter-departmental squabbles  that means that the principal road to Paluma will likely remain blocked for months.  The best re-opening estimate is late April – and that is totally unacceptable.. But, unlike MI, no one but no one has visited Paluma to spell out a situation that will see wrong headed nanny state rules – formulated in Brisbane of course – and ultra woke regulations keep the road closed in the coming months.

The core problem, according to The ‘Pie’s trusted informant,  is the competing requirements of three government departments, the Wet Tropics, wankers the Heritage galahs and the one group ready and willing to get on with things, Dept of Transport and Main Roads.  Full points to the DMR fr doing their best to keep the residents informed.  (Note the idiotic instruction these blokes have to follow, to break up large rocks into small transportable ones FFS).It has eventuated that here is a circle jerk of public servants contradicting and over-riding the rules regarding restoration of the road and the famed Little Crystal Creek Bridge, one of the main tourist attractions in the area.

One instance of this over-protective, over-woke callousness is the fact that for five weeks now, the TMR has been overseeing the trucking out of slip material, transporting it down to God knows where in an expensive and protracted exercise in bureaucratic bumbling. The road would have been open long ago if common sense had prevailed and the slip material had just been bulldozed over the side.  The emotional dwarves 1400kms south have described such a solution as ‘against the order of nature’. No really, they have said that. It has not been suggested at any stage that the road itself actually caused any slippage, and such falls do occur naturally in hilly bushland … are these fuckwits going to go out and lecture hillsides that they are acting ‘against the force of nature’.

Nothing would surprise.

Newsflash, you over-lettered drongos: The Australian bush is resilient enough to spring back quickly when there is movement of natural environmental components like rock and mud. But you shadow flinchers have said no, and tough titty for people in Paluma and surrounds – and any local Townsville and Ingham folks planning traditional Easter camping treks,  a key time for businesses up there. Which is just well in one way, because should a medical emergency occur, the nearest helipad is more than 20kms away and pretty dicey at that, by allk eports. And not accessible at night. The only road in and out now is the dangerous Laroona Station Road, which is in part a challenging surface but the whole length is subject to roaming cattle, feral pigs, roos and deer … hitting Bambi in the middle of nowhere would not have a happy Disney ending.

But if that’s making you seethe, here’s another example that’ll really snap your elastic.

The TCC road to the Paluma Dam, this city’s second biggest water supply storage,  remains closed while the council waits for instructions from the Wet Tropics whackos on how to remove and appropriately ‘place’ fallen trees off the roads and into the adjacent forest, in a manner that will not disorientate the local wild life.  For fuck’s fucking sake.  This means that dam staff have not been on site of this vital part of Townsville infrastructure for five weeks at the time of writing – but no probs, this utter idiocy is excused because the dam is ‘monitored remotely’.  And The ‘Pie has been given to understand that the Wet Tropics mincers are all based in Cairns.

No one has travelled to the village to advise residents of Paluma and surrounds what is going on, but they have been sternly told by social media of the dire consequences and swingeing fines should anyone be tempted to use common sense and do a little road clearing off their own bat.

If the worse happens, and there is serious injury or death that could have been prevented by sensible and realistic action for access, will someone be held accountable?

No not one one single fucking person.  It’ll be the old Nazi excuse updated ‘I wuz jus followin’ orders, nuthing to do with me.’

Raped By Justice? The Loaded Law That Condemns Innocent Men

The word ‘men’ here is pivotal because it is simple fact penile penetration is only committed by men, either on women or on other men.  (We will leave the more heinous crimes of paedophilia aside from this argument for the sake of clear argument.)

A new report by the Australian Law reform Commission recommends  further  measures than all go to towards skewing the justice system further in favour of complainants.  The details of the changes do not concern us here today,  except for the extraordinary possibility, if the reforms are acted on, of the government funding third party lawyers for the defence … which would have them opposing government funded Crown prosecutors. But that’s not the issue being addressed here. What prompted The Magpie to bring up the subject was this in the Weekend Bulletin.

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This bloke’s name and photograph are in the Bulletin,  the latest of several times since this matter has been going through the judicial system  He has been named at the outset, while the complainant has not, because the law forbids it.

And now he has been found not guilty, after days of doubt in the public mind.

That is right and fair that complainants should not be identified, because rape is a debilitating and scarring experience … but so is being falsely accused of a crime for which society holds perpetrators in   high and lingering contempt. But human nature being what it is, there is ALWAYS a unproven background suggestion that ‘he’s good for it’. All rapes, actual and alleged, revolve around their own unique set of lead-up circumstances, but they can never be justified.

But they can’t always be proven, either.

So why does the law insist on differentiating that a rape accused can be identified after being remanded (except where it would identify the alleged victim.) but the accuser cannot?

The Magpie again asks why either party should be named at all in these reputationaly dangerous circumstances. Those who argue that we need to know if a ‘sexual predator’ walks amongst us ignore the fact that a charge and allegation must be proved  in a court of law. And despite misguided claims that no woman would claim such a thing if it weren’t true is soporific nonsense .. that suggests we don’t need courts, just Star Chambers. And as been seen in this case, and in other more high profile instances, women DO lie about sexual encounters for a variety of reasons (ask Jarryd Haynes).

So surely the answer is simple, The ‘Pie has never heard a sensible counter to it … NO ONE should be named when a rape charge is brought, in fact there is absolutely no reason why the fact that an accusation has been made needs to be publicly announced. The media can foam on as much as it likes about a spurious, self-interested ‘public’s right to know’ but there is no such right, morally or actually.  And during a trial, the names of either parties should again be the rule. And remain the rule if there is an acquittal. For all parties. To reveal the identities of either party should be made a contempt of court.

BUT if a guilty verdict is the result, the perpetrator should be named and identified.

All the rules about non-confrontation between accused and accuser are reasonably covered already, and all other aspects of the unique protections already in place balance up the scales for a fair trial.

But leaving an innocent person open to a ruined professional and personal life is simply not acceptable in a civilised society.

Strewth!! Anyone Want To Argue? 

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This annual marketing exercise for the paper is standard fare for unserious publications like the Bulletin … it all started a few years ago with a memo from Holt St HQ in Sydney, recommending regionals make up highly contentious power lists on an annual basis, along with cutest baby comps and polls on the city’s best pie/fish’n’chips/pizza/plumbers bum cracks/hoon video.  Eat ya heart out, Sydney Morning Herald/Age. Washington Post, where are ya?

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Recognising … or at least in many cases just acknowledging … the worthwhile roles many gals play in Townsville’s day-to-day existence is a good but meaningless space filler.  But the Bulletin even manages to fuck that up in the name of stirring controversy. Here’s why.

A little history: way back when then editor Mick Carroll introduced the first ‘ Townsville’s most influential list’ ,  The Magpie asked him how the rankings were reached, who decided them, and using what criteria. ‘Editor’s call’ was the reply, although it later turned out, even back then with a good-ish editor, the advertising manager had a big say.  So basically, these lists are simply the opinion of one or two people with vested interests. So it seems in this case

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Uh oh, where’s Bettina?

But here is the question The Magpie has always asked:

Why number in order those chosen 1 to 50?

How can these women’s’ worth to the community be so ranked, what criteria has been used to quantify this false hierarchy? And to what purpose except to stir up spurious, pointless empty argument (the paper hopes)? Pretty insulting, too, giving such wide broadcast of the biased opinion of one or two people whose own  contribution to this community is highly negligible.

There can be no mimsy mumbled excuses that that isn’t a ranking of worth, because that is the way such bullshit lists have always  been seen … and that’s in the paper’s interests to see the gals as well as the readers get their claws out. Here’s what we mean.

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How can a mediocre former low level and ineffective public servant, who has politically elbowed and back stabbed her way into a position she does not deserve, even be on the same page with these two others,  one who actually employs many people as an innovative businesswoman, and the other a hard grind high achiever in the Armed Forces of Australia?  This really is insulting stuff.

And The ‘Pie is also wondering how various councillors from Hinchinbrook, Ayr and Charters Towers ‘influence’ Townsville, but if the paper says they do, well, they must, mustn’t they?

But with The ‘Pie’s knowledge of this town’s recent history, there are nice moments in this twaddle.

So good to see that a former leading drug dealer, understood to be the go-to gal for early Cowboys players wanting to ‘take the edge of’, is featured for her fine rehabilitation into doing good works.  And arch-racist Gracelyn Smallwood gets a guernsey in there somewhere , seems no list would be complete without her.

Maybe This Initiative Could Help The Reporter With English

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Perhaps a program to ‘educational’ reporters in grammar.

And while we’re on the subject.

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A reader suggested the cyclone, due to do several hundreds of millions dollars of improvements to the SE corner,  dallied around off the coast waiting for a Welcome To Country.  Seems it got one and is now wearing out its welcome. But in lead-up media frenzy, when everyone was floundering around looking to fill space caused by the unexpected  delay,  the Courier came up with what can only be called ‘sheer desperation’.

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Amerika – The Week.

“America is great because America is good,” de Tocqueville is supposed to have said; but added, “if America ever stops being good, it will stop being great”.

Seems that moment has arrived, because America also used to be sane.  This potentially catastrophic shit show continues it’s unbelievable spiral. And the Democrats are also under increasing attack for the seemingly total emasculation of their party and their moral courage.

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Should Townsville Have It’s Own Oscars?

With the departure of Jenny Hill, we have all been wondering who will provide the glitz and glamour we so used to and still desperately crave. So why not invent our own version of the Oscars,  called The Mullets. And to get the idea rolling, a community minded figure has stepped right up.

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Wow, what a body-hugging outfit!!

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137 Comments

  1. mike douglas says:

    Whats the acting Mayors photo in front of the Westpac building Flinders st whose owners are applying for approval for a boutique hotel ? . Nothing , just the acting Mayor trying to portray she is somehow interested in the cbd which she has ignored for 9 years as a Councillor.

    Councils invoice pop up foodtrucks $2.1 mil July 2023-24 yet there was no $ for Christmas decorations cbd 2024 , cleaning , security . Councils 2025 /26 Budget is on the radar and industry groups / investors / real estate agents are warning Council to axe differential rates Team Hill implemented in 2022 on long term resi owners costing $30-$50 a week in extra rates which renters pick up . Other Qld Councils levy short term air bnb and the concern is Townsville isnt heading towards being a livable City with Council squandering the opportunities with lack of affordable housing . The Cowboys . Only one game in and commentators dont have them in top 8 for finals .

    • Tropical Cyclone says:

      2.1 million for 1 year?

    • Not standing for (the recycled) Mayor says:

      I see that POP UP Food Trucks is not actually a company but is only a registered trading name for another organisation. Someone with better access to ASIC might be able to find out who actually got paid the $2.1m which if my calculation is correct is about $40,000 a week.

      • Tropical Cyclone says:

        I think its called PUFT and the contract was for 3 years so 13000 a market + extras.

        • Not standing for (the recycled) Mayor says:

          PUFT is not registered with ASIC. Any other ideas or are you making this up.

          • Tropical Cyclone says:

            JCD ENTERPRISES PTY LTD
            owns

            TOWNSVILLE EATS FAIRFIELD External site 04 Oct 2024
            Pop Up Food Trucks Townsville External site 06 Mar 2024
            or PUFT
            Also owned by at least 1 director
            NQ Event Solutions
            seems to subcontract to Townsville eats and Pop up food trucks as well as council.

      • Big Mac says:

        If you want to know who got paid, all their names and photos are prominently on their website, it’s not a mystery.

  2. Dead Eye Dick says:

    I agree with your comments about the 3 RAR digger found not guilty of rape.

    What I don’t understand is the picture used in the Bullshit, it is a Navy uniform with a Australian National Flag (ANF) patch. Either he’s in the Navy wearing the wrong patch (Navy wear the white ensign) or he’s in the Army wearing the wrong uniform.

    FFS, you’d think they’d at least know what our soldiers uniforms look like.

  3. Alahazbin says:

    I wonder how Suzy Batkovic feels about that ‘top 50’ list? The only female councillor that has a backbone and has more influence than ‘food-trucks’ has in her little finger. I see Verena Coomb got a consolation prize from the CoC as she has been out of town for a while and didn’t qualify for the ‘top 50’.

    • Dorfus says:

      Pie, you asked today “Why number in order those chosen 1 to 50?”.

      I really take my hat off to the staff of the Astonisher for achieving this momentous task. There are about 3×10 to the power of 62 ways (i.e. 3 followed by 62 zeros) of ranking 50 people.

      Very soon, most voters in Australia will have the opportunity of ranking over 100 Senate candidates. Even if there were just 60 candidates. the number of ways of doing this will exceed the number of atomic particles (i.e. protons and neutrons) in the known Universe, which number 10 to the power of 80, or perhaps 81 or 82.

  4. Theatergoer says:

    TCC cuts Civic Theatre box office hours back from 9-5 Mon-Fri to just 2 hours before a performance begins then wastes upwards of $5000 of ratepayer’s money on a full-page ad in the Townsville Bulletin promoting coming events, which is surely the responsibility of the promoters. Can Cr Greaney please assure us that we’re not returning to totally unnecessary newspaper advertising to get on the right side of the new editor.

    • White Mouse says:

      Theatregoer – the staff will still be there to do phone sales, they just won’t be doing counter sales. Does it now mean that they work 9-5, twiddle their thumbs (unpaid) until 5.30 and then start sales for a 7.30 show? Hopefully the Councillor for the Yarts (also director of upcoming season of Come From Away) can get this decision reversed.

    • Guy says:

      Something I became aware of during the election was a dedicated group of i guess theatre people having created a proposal to build a venue around the civic theatre , the idea was to create dedicated spaces where particular performances would happen. For example the acoustics for singing, theatre performances, music require different venues. By building specific performance space you’d presumably get a better result.

      The price tag last time I saw it was 70 million something. The idea was state gov would pay for it – maintenance costs i can’t remember. They’d been trying for years to get the thing off the ground. It did make me wonder at the time if the thing had been de factor ignored because the long term plan was towerblocks in that location.

      I was astounded when I saw the council had blown a cool third of a million of tax payers money on a wedgewood exhibition and then as the cherry on the cake charging 60 bucks admission – which is spitting into the face of the Ratepayers. To be honest and wedgewood exhibition is very rarefied air when it comes to “art” and even if it was free I’m unsure who would actually go. Then again it’s not their money to blow so why would the council care – come next election you’d have the same idiots voting for the councillors without making the connection that the pothole your wheel just smashed into was caused by your stupid decisions at the ballot box.

      • The Magpie says:

        The ‘Pie will bet he isn’t the only one who would love to see the attendance figures. The only sell for a one-off show like Wedgewood was the Lego extravaganza a few years ago. Seems the TCC has some sort of bipolar arts policy.

  5. Prince Rollmop says:

    Oh yes, Foodtrucks in her hot air balloon outfits. It’s a wonderful sight. Seriously, Townsville deserves better than Foodtrucks, Mooney, Twonames. We seem to be operating on a one step forward two steps back methodology. I’m still waiting for Joe McCool to find his stride. I’ve been patient and have given him the benefit of the doubt, however that can only last for so long. The budget is in chaos, TEL remains inefficient, and TCC’s structure as a whole is still a mess. Tick tock……

    • Guy says:

      Why would a CEO on 700 thousand plus rock the boat ? Take the money, fill your resume and move on to the next dying civilisation

      • Prince Rollmop says:

        Guy, silly comment. Yes, previous CEO’s have done that and look where it has gotten Townsville – on the cusp of administration. Occasionally an organisation jags a CEO that is accountable and does the right thing, hence our trust and hope in Joe McCool. I don’t think Joe realised the gravity of TCC’s finances before joining, but I could be wrong. I hope he isn’t a fly by night CEO, but time will tell. Perhaps he didn’t bring enough turd polish with him to Townsville?

        • Guy says:

          The CEO would have known, wouldn’t he have looked at the finances in some cursory way ?

          The plan as i see it is TCC is mirroring state, federal and global government finances. You’ll find many states are deliberately taking unsustainable debt – the Americans are withdrawing their gold from across the world. There are many questions about Australian gold at the bank of England.

          At a local level no further debt should be taken, either management wages are slashed or sackings need to happen. No further money for wedgewood exhibitions or any more community handouts. If we follow this rule then I reckon we might pay off the debt to a degree in 10 years – the councillors figure they can keep putting up rates ( given their wages it doesn’t affect them). When their time is up they’ll go back to their previous hobd

    • Sara Major says:

      Mr McCabe has shown he’s backing Greaney and has been well supported by advisor Oberhardt. They will stay as they are, go through the motions. $750k is not a risk McCabe will take. There’s not a leader amongst the councillors, a big broom is best! Two names, foodtrucks, All councillors and executive. Crisafulli is holding back until the federal election is over.

  6. Maggie Moggie says:

    Saturdays TCC ‘information session’ is set of one not to miss.

    Social media on the island has gone into a frenzy, with claims that TCC zoning change is illegal, and could be challenged through court action, to calls for the Enviromental Defenders Office to become involved.

    The ‘Greens’ have also posted that there a been sightings a skink on the ‘community zoned’ Kelly St land and not just any old lizard ,but the ‘vunerable’ Magnetic Island Dwarf Skink which is endemic to the island and not found anywhere else in the world.

    As for who signed off on what, in a meeting on island in July or August ‘Cupcake’ stated he had signed off on a ‘deal with TCC’ regarding Kelly St.
    So The Mullet, Foodtrucks and Cupcake are right in the thick of it.

    Ah, Magnetic Island at it’s best…

    • Jenny Kennett says:

      Talking about being in the thick of it, last Friday the local member Adam Baillie wrote to Cr Greaney buying, perhaps unwittingly, into the bunfight:

      “I am writing to raise the significant concerns of Magnetic Island residents who have met with me on several occasions and tendered correspondence in relation to the potential impacts of the proposed Dredge Material Management Facility at Nelly Bay.”

      Which is interesting timing since the member had reportedly told a recent MIRRA meeting that he had attended the Port of Townsville with the Minister for Transport and Main Roads to discuss options for dumping of dredge spoil including “not dumping on land”.

      Furthermore, seeing as GBRMPA and the federal government is administratively up to its ears in this harbour dredging and spoil dumping imbroglio, Member Baillie cast the net wider still:

      “I understand the Member for Herbert, Mr Phillip Thompson OAM MP has also raised concerns about this matter with you and is yet to receive a response.”

      Phillip is no doubt concerned about the World Heritage Area. So there’s plenty of time yet for Premier Crisafulli and Airbus Albo to see the errors of their respective predecessors’ ways and relieve Townsville ratepayers of the onerous financial and environmental burden laid on them by disastrous decisions of state and federal governments all those years ago. Albatrosses you could say, coming home to roost.

      • The Magpie says:

        The ‘Pie would be interested to know if that letter was posted anywhere. And if not, how come you got to see what, on the face of it, was a personal communication to Foodtrucks.

        • Jenny Kennett says:

          MrB is talking to MrT about how they can lord it over MsG and TCC. They hold all the aces including, in MrB’s case, potential advocacy to access the Port’s spoil dumping facilities and funding (a state issue) and in MrT’s case, advocacy to have the whole matter assessed under the EPBC Act (a federal issue) – which is being strenuously avoided because, well, because they’d rather not be assessed by anyone, especially ratepayers. And, shades of Haughton2 pipeline funding, MrT has form. He made sure that one way or scheming Qld Treasurer another, not a dime left the Canberra treasury to fund Townsville’s water lifeline. Will he step up this time? Yeah, nah!

      • Grumpy says:

        Jenny – I could do with a few cubic metres of clean fill. Is it toxic?

        • Kenny Kennett says:

          Jenny speaks like a particular former State member and school principal. He seems to have access to a lot of information.

      • Percy says:

        Jenny is a Council insider. And my guess within the planning and/or environment departments. Good intel Jenny, thank you.

      • Alahazbin says:

        Jenny, Seeing you so close to the A/mayor’s drawers. Maybe you could tell us who is getting the $2.1 million for Popup Foodtrucks
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        • Jenny Kennett says:

          Ala, look up Puft Events Townsville. Puft is the abbreviated form of pop up food trucks. On their site you can see who the business is run by, what they do etc. They appear to have a contract to ‘run’ or supply some service to Cotters Market. While you are sniffing around those budget items you might take note of one further down the list (since people in the ‘Nest are always going on about the V8s and TCC’s investment in that event). Integrated Event Delivery Management were budgeted $345,000 for “project and traffic management” of the 2024 TSV500 Supercar event. Dunno a thing about them and can’t be bothered looking them up. You could though.

          • The Magpie says:

            How about a bloody PUFT link, Jenny? Very rude.

            And re the SuperPests, that is but a drop in the leaking TCC budget bucket when the overall contribution to the events rapacious organisers receive from the Townsville taxpayer.

          • Not standing for (the recycled) Mayor says:

            Which one of these clowns is shagging a councillor, to get $2.1m to run an event they are also attending as a vendor and presumably making money out of?

          • The Magpie says:

            The ‘Pie posts that comment believing that is metaphorical. But it’s a strange old world, ain’tm it?

  7. Dave Nth says:

    I couldn’t care less about these 50 most whatever lists. Like 50 best music hits of the last 20 years, everyone’s taste is different like perspectives so is in the WALOS category.

    As for the dredging, I am at a loss that an EPBC is not required being so close to the GBRMP. Disturb about anything these days and an EPBC is required.

    Don’t know if any lawyers would take this on but have the residents of MI considered putting this through the Planning & Environment Court? Yes I realise that means costs and stress. I was thinking the Land Court but seems they don’t have the jurisdiction in this case.

    Anyway just a thought.

  8. Guy says:

    Ok , another thought – you probably won’t like it.

    Musk

    The unpopular view of Musk is that HE is a huge techno ponzi scheme. To qualify this opinion commentators will often point to the MANY failures of Musk that have cost tesla billions.

    When Musk took over Twitter its value collapsed and has remained down.

    Solar cities was a disaster/ loss making proposition

    The tesla roadster people put down payments on still isn’t ready after perhaps 7 years

    Tesla semi : never happened ( the electric truck)

    Cyber truck : virtually useless, terrible idea, design and execution, very few people bought them despite the cost to create it

    Starship : doesn’t work, the latest flight blew up. Commentators say the underlying problem is weight its not structurally strong enough. The main booster is reminiscent of the soviet N1

    ” Successes” such as the other tesla EVs all depend on government subsidies to make them viable ( sort of). The major cost of any EV is the battery which is compromised by 8 years use – no one wants to buy a second hand car. Generally EVs suffer fires and can barely charge if the weather gets cold. Remember the electric truck that burst into flames last year ? Other solar power products inverters ( tesla powerwall) and massive battery systems ( the SA battery back up system) all rely on government subsidies and backing. If ONE cell in the battery systems suffers a failure it goes into thermal runaway and burns to the ground – it can’t be extinguished easily and spews deadly fumes such as HF.

    The spaceX falcon has some success, they seem to work but again the whole programme is pumped up by government.

    Starlink : yes it works BUT the life of a starlink module is short because of its LEO the drag caused by the atmosphere destroys them in the end.

    The Artemis moon mission is compromised thanks to the starship system which might require anything up to 20 starships ( or more?) for orbital refuelling. Mars is a no go.

    Warren buffet refuses to buy tesla ( I wonder why)

    Musk wealth depends on the value of tesla stock ( this might have changed recently?) When tesla share prices go down he comes out with another vapourware idea , remember “hyperloop” was going to change transportation? It never worked and the whole thing scrapped, there’s a demo track of half a kilometer or so connected to a casino in America. The whole idea is that tesla and indeed Musk himself is one big ponzi scheme that sucks in money but produces nothing of value. Share price goes down, vapourware is announced, share price goes up – the vapourware fails – share price falls, Musk announces new vapourware. Remember how everyone would be travelling around the world on huge rockets to save a few hours of existing air travel ?

    As Putin said : the empire of lies

  9. Kristian price says:

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    • The Magpie says:

      This turned up this morning. Possibly an error, possibly a fake, but tends to exemplify the councillors input. Except when it rains.

  10. Headmistress says:

    In regards to the 50 most powerful list, I would say those featured are more high profile than “powerful” or “influential”. Many featured have spent a great deal of time and effort in courting local media and building social media profiles and fair play to them however, I suspect the names have just been pulled from the Bulletin’s contact list in another hastily cobbled together homage to IWD. In my opinion, only a handful are worthy of a place due to academic and professional accomplishments but others are just randoms that have popped up in Bulletin social pages and articles via their own media outreach. Very lazy of the Bulletin. I can think of several outstanding medical professionals, CEOs and business owners who simply get on with their job under immense pressure and provide huge value to Townsville. They simply do not have the time to build a public profile but instead, focus on results and the all important bottom line in order to continue to provide much services to the city and pay staff. It seems if too busy to swirl around in the pink pond of the TWBC and attend socialite luncheons then they don’t rate. Huge fail by the Bulletin not to honour the work of the late Dr Sarah Beaney, one of the cities very few, most hard-working and well regarded psychiatric/geriatric specialists who passed away this month. Extremely well-known and respected by many locals and familes living with dementia. A huge loss to the community.

  11. The Magpie says:

    A new iditor, but still we have to wonder.

    Today’s front page is wrong on two points.

    An unpopular loss WILL NOT sell newspaper or make readers open links. Those interested enough will already know, given the level of support across the city. Those who don’t know are told the one fact they want to know with the headline, and don’t have any reason to go further and buy the paper.
    Traditional wisdom has always been that you put wins,not losses, on the front page.

  12. Achilles says:

    There are exceptions such as Cosgrove, but from my experience the higher the rank, the higher the level of incompetent stupidity.

    Sadly the same criteria apply on civvie street, pre-qualifications include… oh! please other Nesters fill in the blanks

  13. Toy Thompstain says:

    In Twonames latest Facebook post he does his usual and blames his fellow Councillors and the executive for everything, but he also throws Mr Oberhardt under the bus too!

    C’mon Mr Crisafulli, you really need to send this clown packing.

  14. Elusive Butterfly says:

    Ah but, Mr. Pie..there’s more.
    I was going to bring it up but thought it a tad trivial.
    However, check the news story re: this game and then check today’s editorial.
    An audience of 5400 suddenly becomes 54,000…in the fucking editorial no less!
    More evidence this newspaper is a disgrace!

    • The Magpie says:

      Indeed, and thank you for reading the iditorial. The ‘Pie wasn’t able to tackle it, he was concerned as a diabetic, that the syrupy sugar of this girly-girly gushing might be harmful.

      And we are back to square one, asking the age old question =if you can’t get a glaring error like this right (and in the fucking editorial FFS), why should anyone believe anything else, numbers or words, that appear in such a sloppy, fingers-crossed publication.

      The shining insincerity of this sort of fawning to local sentiment by people who know fuck all about us is a News Ltd thing … this Courier front page is talking to us like we are little children who have tripped over and grazed their knee. And Daddy News Ltd is there to wipe away our tears. What cunts!

      It doesn’t get much more juvenile, patronising or insulting that that – Queenslander are Australians who just get on with it through our droughts and flooding rains, and don’t need a disinterested, hypocritical multinational disgrace like News Ltd to tell us what out long established characteristics are.

      You may rest assured that our local Townsville Bulletin paper and news platform is as bigger threat to retarding Townsville’s healthy growth as Greaney, Thompson, Brumme-Smith and our long string of Qld state labor MPs have ever been.

  15. J jones says:

    12. Claudia Brumme-Smith

    Since beginning her role as chief executive at Townsville Enterprise in 2021, Ms Brumme-Smith has overseen many huge projects in Townsville.

    What BS

    • The Magpie says:

      Or so she says. She is a bigger fraud than Troy Thompson … and allowing her ton so blatantly lie because of their laziness and timidity, so is the Townsville Bulletin.

    • Not standing for (the recycled) Mayor says:

      The biggest project Ms BS has been involved with is inflating her own importance. No wonder the port were glad to get rid of her.

    • Toy Thompstain says:

      As Magpie pointed out, Claudia is a fraud. She is more interested in self accolades and rubbing shoulders with the so-called elite of society. How she has managed to get away with running such a dud outfit is beyond me. And as for Gill, he isn’t even supposed to be TEL chair. Again, how is that allowed?

  16. Daydream Believer says:

    Come on bloggers, don’t be too hard on the new editor, who could still be in Suncorp Stadium capacity mode. That crowd of 54,000 at the Fire game could have been estimated by TEL using its formula for calculating the economic benefits from everything from cruise ship visits to pop concerts, and even the V8 Superpests and the Landsdown white elephant. Reminds me of the Cowboys home game attendance figures back when Rabby Crayon was crunching the numbers.
    Only joking, of course. Everyone knows TEL is beyond reproach, and the Rabstar is as honest as the day is long.

  17. Tropical Cyclone says:

    Council is having a workshop to review policy and procedure of community grants. What would you put into the policy?
    Personally I think a per person attending amount should be standard.

    • The Magpie says:

      While a fine theory, it would invite all sorts of chicanery (photoshopping for instance, apart from outright lying) and would be very hard to administer.

  18. Jonny Rotten says:

    President Trump is ending China’s chokehold over the Panama Canal as he seeks its rightful return to U.S. ownership.

    Following a visit from Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Panamanian President José Raúl Mulino agreed to withdraw from the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative, a debt-trap diplomacy scheme the Chinese Communist Party uses to gain influence over developing nations.
    CK Hutchison Holding sold ports operating on both sides of the Panama Canal to a U.S.-based consortium, effectively placing the ports back in American control.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      For the benefit of knob ends that can’t google and just believe the right wing propaganda of MAGA. CK Hutchison was Hong Kong. Not Chinese.

      Besides..
      “The United States supports Hong Kong’s autonomy and the United States-Hong Kong Policy Act of 1992, as amended, establishes the authority of the U.S. government to treat Hong Kong as a non-sovereign entity distinct from China for the purposes of U.S. domestic law based on the principles of the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration.”

      And
      CK Hutchison Holdings Limited is a Hong Kong–based and Cayman Islands–registered multinational conglomerate corporation. The company was formed in March 2015 through the merger of Cheung Kong Holdings and its main associate company Hutchison Whampoa.[2]

      Cheung Kong (Holdings) Limited, is a multinational conglomerate, based in Hong Kong

      Hutchison Whampoa Limited (HWL) was an investment holding company based in Hong Kong. It was a Fortune Global 500 company and one of the largest companies listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CK_Hutchison_Holdings

      https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/eap/rls/rpt/19562.htm#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20supports%20Hong,the%201984%20Sino%2DBritish%20Joint

  19. HiBeam says:

    Yesyerday 10th March I looked through the Bullsheet (something I seldom do) and noticed the the acting mare whoops mayor has in a two page spread tols us how we are going ahead in leaps and bounds at the new industrial area on the way to Mt. Isa. 6 or 8 companies many of world renown now spending billions of dollars out there. I havn’t been for about 6 months so either I need to visit the optometrist or she is full of it OR in six months all these billions have seen all these workers arrive and achieve. I CALL BULLSHIT.

  20. The Magpie says:

    The Magpie offers sincere thanks for your series of ‘Magpie Derangement Syndrome’ comments, none of which was found to reach the (admittedly pretty low) standard of proof or truth. However, The ‘Pie notes that similar demented boosting of the world’s greatest criminal fascist fraudster is shared by Robert Walkley in the Townsville Bulletin letters page. Perhaps you might get in touch with him for some merry meetings over your boil’n’bubble cauldron. BYO eye of newt.

    Unless, of course, you are one and the same.

    • Toy Thompstain says:

      R u ok Magpie! Your comment doesn’t make sense and is quite odd. Just checking mate.

      • The Magpie says:

        For some reason, the reply mechanism didn’t work. It was in response to Johnny Rotten, a demented suffered of Nest Derangement Syndrome, who ofered around 20 unpublished comments singing the praises of the Mobster-In-Chief.

        Unfortunately, the poor pathetic mutt doesn’t realise that reality prevails in the Nest and bullshit doesn’t (most of the time anyway).

  21. Jenny Kennett says:

    Big exclusive in the TBulletin today about Lansdown: “Townsville City Council has made the case why residents should get behind its Lansdown Eco-Industrial Precinct. Do you think it should be sold off?”

    But if you look for the details on the TCC website there’s nothing. No updates on Lansdown or the Haughton pipeline since mid-2024. No indication of what’s been done by Council at the Lansdown site, what’s coming next, just crickets. Is it any wonder ratepayers get worked up about wasted rates when no one in Council will talk about it?

  22. Alahazbin says:

    As of Monday 10/3 I no longer get the TB. I find I now have an extra 3 minutes to have breakfast.

    • The Magpie says:

      The ‘Pie wonders what panic that will cause. They just can’t help telling lies, especially ones that only they havde the data to disprove.

      84,000 circulation on weekdays, eh?. That most certainly would have to include digital subs, because the print version must be around 10,000/15000 nowadays. So that means – if we’re generous – 65,000 digital subs. Yeah, right. And 104,000 on Saturdays? dream on – the insult is they think we’ll believe that.
      This is such brazen nonsense, but since compulsory public circulation figure requirements were dropped a decade ago, they can say what they like. And it only matters to advertisers, who pay more for a higher circulation. And btw, there’s a new editor in the tilting wheelhouse, forgotten her name but it will surely be prominent shortly. When they get around to changing their public information data.

      And it is interesting to note that such a high flying economic powerhouse has a ‘shop 2′ address.

      • Jenny Kennett says:

        We pretend that circulation matters to advertisers like we pretend that the USA is on our side. So last century. So out of whack with the obvious. The biggest advertisers (ten pages per issue) call the shots and pay their special price. The little guy, selling a car, looking for a job, placing a funeral notice, will cop extra special treatment regardless of circulation.

        • The Magpie says:

          The ‘Pie’s late friend Ron Bairstow retired to his hometown Perth after several decades in Townsville. A few years later, when his wife Shiela died, Ron placed in memoriam notices in the West Australian, and because they had many friends still in Townsville, he placed the same notice in the Townsville Bulletin. He was at a loss to understand why the notice in the Bulletin cost two and a half times as much as the one in the much larger (and respected) West Australian.

  23. Mike Douglas says:

    Hopeful the new editor of the Townsville Bulletin is quicker in picking up ” Steven Wulguru ” daily text to the editor links messagebank / Wulguru Labor party . Declan Annandale text very similar ? . Exiting editor was late on switching allegance until after Mayor / deputy Mayor voted out . Perhaps the 4 pages of Councils ads contract hadn’t finished .

    • Big Mac says:

      What would the problem be if they had links to the Labor Party, and how would the editor go about proving the connection anyway?

  24. Motorist says:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-12/yarra-council-escooters-lime-neuron/105038996
    This council has increased e-scooter company fee from $1 per scooter per day to $5 per scooter per day to make the scheme revenue positive for the council.
    Does the TCC make money from these pests?

  25. Jenny Kennett says:

    Surprised (or maybe not) by how little interest has been shown here in the shenanigans over the $2.8m Nelly Bay harbour dredging project, despite the Magpie’s best efforts. The usual suspects defending or offending the mayor, the LNP, the Labor Party, supposed Council insiders and TCC budget experts have all gone silent. Perhaps they are saving their thoughts and pennies for a ferry/bus fare on Saturday to the public meeting in Horseshoe Bay? Perhaps they don’t have a clue how to respond as ratepayers when the Council has been corralled into an invidious position by higher orders of government. One local respondent thought it hard to believe that the State Government who created the problem, Council who seem to have ended up with the responsibility, and the Port of Townsville who have the means and experience to deal with it, cannot work together to find a less destructive solution to what will be an ongoing problem. Fancy that! Conversation about cooperation. And let’s not disconnect the federal government and its GBRMPA technocrats from this equation. They, after all, have issued a permit to Council (not the Queensland government) to remove up to 4,700 cubic metres of spoil from the state government harbour – part of the GBR Marine Park. Why are ratepayers paying for that and giving up rare and valuable community land on a World Heritage listed site for an industrial treatment dump? Will the local members be there defending their actions, or complete lack of? This is a quagmire but for some reason the usual pigs ain’t squealing.

    • The Magpie says:

      Perhaps of equal interest is why your council, Jenny, hasn’t officially and up-front made this explanation clear to the punters, and explained why they agreed to this unfair burden on the ratepayers, not just of MI but of all Townsville.

      You doing their backdoor work for them here in The Nest is not good enough.

      • Jenny Kennett says:

        Magpie, I doubt whether this council agreed to anything of the sort. What is clear to the punters is that TCC was sucker punched in Nelly Bay decades ago and now we are being told to pay for it like we’re dumbfucks. Just like the town was bitchslapped by Brisbane and Canberra over the Haughton2 pipeline and may, if we don’t handle our cards right, pay through the nose for that too. Barking at the moon doesn’t make the troubles go away.

        Our council should not be lumbered with state and federal government obligations to maintain their critical infrastructure and protect their internationally regarded environmental assets. If hamstrung TCC is unable to make its own case then ordinary citizens need to step up and share the load, just as they did regarding paid parking on the Strand. The Queensland government should be in charge of dredging and disposing of spoil from Nelly Bay harbour AND paying for it rather than hiding behind some cock and bull fine print from the Bjelke-Peterson era. And the all time finest federal member since sliced bread should be demanding that the Albanese government, for once, cast a lazy eyeball over the World Heritage property just over the water to see if it isn’t going to be ruined by some cheap shit cut price dogs breakfast up the back of Nelly Bay where the sun don’t shine.

        • The Magpie says:

          Phew!! Time for a Kit Kat, Jen?

        • Not standing for (the recycled) Mayor says:

          I’m confused about who Jenny is against after reading that. Talk about a smokescreen.

        • Maggie Moggie says:

          JKF,
          Now you are sounding like the real Jenny, aka The Mullet, who used to come to the island regularly and whinge.

          Shame the TCC levy on landowners in the harbour precindt fell through, seems there are much smarter legal eagles than the serial bully Bligh, or council would have stacks of money to pay for the dredging.
          But TCC do slug the land owners in the harbour precinct with hefty rates, So Who is Paying? – not council, or the councillors, or you for that matter – it is the ratepayers.

          As for the harbour and its so called bad design – ferries were running into Nelly Bay about 16 hours after the cyclone Yasi weather, meanwhile during that same weather event the Picnic Bay jetty was severely damaged ( have lots of photos on file) and TMR had just spent shy of $550K on renovations?
          Not that it would make any difference to you because you don’t even live on the island.

          You just like to mouth off…

          • Jenny Kennett says:

            Moggie, I certainly don’t live on the island. Why would I, it is full of inbreds. But I have been heavily associated with several organisations of which provided services to the island. And from those experiences I have learned that the island is full of whingers and serial complainers. I guess too much time spent laying in the sand under palm trees and drinking cocktails will do that to a person, stunt their brain cells.

          • The Magpie says:

            Hmmm, bowl of milk for the pussycat?

          • Jenny Kennett says:

            Maggie Moggie, what exactly do you know about rate paying on Maggie Island? You reckon TCC “slugs the land owners in the harbour precinct with hefty rates”. But the evidence, which you can read in the gumpf that comes with your rates notice, is clear that rates for regular dwellings in the canal estate are the same as anywhere else. There is NO special rate at present:

            “Special Rates – Nelly Bay Harbour Development
            The Nelly Bay Harbour Development Special Rate levy is applied to maintaining water quality in the canals, dredging the canals, maintaining the rock walls around the canal area and maintaining the sediment basin in Gustav Creek.
            A special rate of zero cents in the dollar on the rateable value of the land applies to identified properties for the 2024/25 year.”

            See that? Zero cents in the dollar. So the dredging job is being paid for by all Townsville ratepayers, not just canal dwellers.

        • Toy Thompstain says:

          Jenny (I mean Elusive Butterfly), you give yourself away you fool.

    • Beaker says:

      JK – There’s little interest in the island dredge spoil saga because, as you say in your later comments on this thread, “the island is full of serial complainers and whingers.” In this case, the major opposition to the dredge spoil site has been sustained by one resident whose rather large land holding abuts the site in question. The make-up of residents has changed drastically in recent years and perhaps we’ve finally reached a point where balance and common sense has overtaken the shrill greens. I note from island social media pages that the latest argument is that the site is home to a rare species of skink. If memory serves, this is the same argument used when TCC was scouting places to house the island transfer station

      • The Magpie says:

        That’s a bit of an arrogant and ignorant dismissal of many people’s justified concerns about a sludge dump in a residential area, isn’t Low Beam? The issue also concerns all Townsville ratepayers because of the process involved reaching this wrong-headed decision.

        Yes, the skink thing is just silly (and not helpful) but the reality of the scheme is not, it is a cheap lazy way out for the council, state and federal governments. It certainly bears examination, which is necessary because of the Bulletin’s silence on the issue.

        As a precedent, today Magnetic Island, tomorrow where?

        • Achilles says:

          Easiest and sure way to stop that dumping of the dredged spoil is get a couple of our indigenous to claim its a sacred site, or needed some such other nonsense. Maybe a corroboree or secret women’s business.

          • The Magpie says:

            Can’t be secret womens’ business, that’s whatstarted all this … the women being J Hill and A-M Greaney.

          • Bullshit says:

            They tried that to stop the development of Nelly Bay in the first place, didn’t work!

      • Jenny Kennett says:

        Beaker, your observation that “The make-up of residents has changed drastically in recent years and perhaps we’ve finally reached a point where balance and common sense has overtaken the shrill greens”, bears some interrogation. The stats show that since the harbour opened in October 2003, percentage-wise there are way fewer children, more single and two-person-no-kids households and more retirees than in Townsville or Queensland generally. And anecdotally, fewer tenants than ever before. Not sure if there are more empty (ie. holiday rental/investment) houses but quite possibly. So the households on Maggie Island are more mortgage-stressed and more owner-occupied than in the past. I would suggest that makes them likely more ‘conservative’ and more aware of their value and amenity situation than in the happy go lucky past to which you seem to allude. There are about 20 separate properties abutting the TCC-owned land in Nelly Bay. None of them, let alone the hundreds of other owner-occupiers nearby, have been consulted about this project. Let’s see how much ‘balance and common sense’ shows up on Saturday when the council tries to explain why their community land has to be permanently turned into a heavy industry site because . . . . . . . well, we will find out why.

        • The Magpie says:

          The Magpie invites you, Jenny, and any others who attend the meeting to sent in a report on proceedings to comments here on Saturday afternoon. They might not be published in whole (there might be quite a bit of repetition) but I will cobble together an overall picture for Sunday’s Nest.

  26. Custard Arse says:

    Nice blog title this week, utilising the word ‘sludge’. Our Council building along with the TEL offices are filled to the brim with toxic fucking sludge. Dickheads.

    • The Magpie says:

      With the exception of The’Pie’s late lamented best mate, Mark Sludge Donnelly, the best of company and one of the wittiest men I’ve ever met.

      But otherwise, an junerstandable point of view.

  27. Achilles says:

    Interesting caption on the footer of the ABC News;

    “Productivity Commission finds Indigenous imprisonment surged by 15% in one year”.

    Does that mean that they’re doing a good job then? Can’t imagine why they have any involvement with this issue.

  28. Beaker says:

    Notice Messagebank has been re-activated the posting on his Facebook page lately. Full of banal shoutouts to local businesses for the ‘great coffee’ and throwbacks to ‘that time when I was doing something-or-other.’ God help us if he’s thinking of having another tilt.

    • The Magpie says:

      TwoNames Lite. If he’s thinking of following Thompoon’s Uriah Heep giveway ploy, maybe handing out all day suckers would be most apt.

  29. Not standing for (the recycled) Mayor says:

    Twostains may have accidentally landed a punch for once (although he is not sure who the Mayor now is).

    The question has been asked about where TCC’s two specialist sand bag filling machines were during the recent floods.

    • The Magpie says:

      That was a question that was first canvassed here some weeks ago during flood preparations.

      Nice to know Troy still reads the Nest.

    • The Magpie says:

      Well, it appears all that the grandstanding TwoNames had to do was ask … which is exactly what Then ‘Pie did, and a short time later, the matter was cleared up.

      Malcolm Weatherup
      12:08 (5 hours ago)
      to Andrew

      Good afternoon, Clr Robinson,

      A recurring question readers of the Magpie’s Nest have been asking for some time now – and our suspended mayor has now jumped on that bandwagon – concerns the two sandbagging machines bought by the previous council (read mayor).

      They were not in evidence that we know of during the recent emergency, and since you were the boss of the operations (nicely handled for a change), wondering if you could clear this up for us. People are asking why they weren’t used.

      Also, since the original Hill glory story in the Bulletin cannot be immediately found, what did they cost? In this case, it was certainly money well spent.

      Regards,

      Malcolm

      Andrew Robinson
      17:18 (2 minutes ago)
      to me

      Hello Malcolm,
      You are correct, in that Council has two sandbagging machines that are operational and were purchased circa 2020. The Qld State Govt provided $50k through its Get Ready Qld Program. I will need to get back to you with more detailed information of costs, as I do not have the figures at hand. As to value for money? I would have to agree that in my opinion that it is money well spent.

      The two sandbagging machines would not likely to have been seen by members of the public in operation during the recent wet weather event. The machines were primarily used for the provision / creation of sandbags for the protection of assets, or emergency use and not for the general use of members of the public. The two machines were deployed and utilised by:

      Solely Council, for the protection of Council assets.
      Shared by Ergon for the protection of its assets and SES for use in an emergency situation and to assist those who were incapable.

      I know that the machines were present at the Get Ready Event just prior to Christmas. Several people have commented to me on the machines perceived absence and had the expectation that the machines should have been used at two of the sandbagging sites. Whilst this may have assisted individuals, Council needs to ensure that more critical assets or areas are protected, to help assist the city with a faster recovery. I have taken this lesson on board and will endeavour to ensure that in the future, when the sandbagging machines are set up for a display, that it is clearly expressed or signed that the machines will generally not be used for the provision of sandbags for individuals.

      Hopefully, I should have further details on the costings by tomorrow. Thank you for your email and I hope that you are feeling better from your medical procedure last week.

      Kind Regards,

      Cr Andrew Robinson

      Councillor – Division 8

      M 0461 518 080 E email hidden; JavaScript is required

      • The Magpie says:

        Clr Robinson appears to be one of the few councillors who actually really listen when queried about something. (contra cf Liam Mooney, Foodtrucks).

        However, his straight forward answer does raise a couple of questions, at least for the ‘Pie. Just a brief glance at the flood history of Townsville would make sandbagging machine for the public an excellent investment, especially when Mother Nature often sets a short timetable for some sudden events. We wouldn’t require them to be made of Wedgewood china, either, the rental of that exhibition would’ve gone a long way towards getting a couple of sandbaggers to be strategically stationed in the most flood prone divisions.

        The other question is whether – and The ‘Pie is really asking because he doesn’t know – sandbags can be pre-filled and stored? If deterioration/rotting fabric isn’t an issue, the machines need not be idle all through the dry months. On the face of it, this seems to be a practical solution to our readiness for what is, let’s face, inevitable many times in the future.

        In fact, it seems so simple,obvious and practical that The ‘Pie cannot believe that to his knowledge, this is the only place the suggestion has been made. (But don’t worry, eitherv Treoy Thompson or Ms B-S Brumme-Smith will claim the credit shortly claim the credit.)

        • Prince Rollmop says:

          Dear Phillip Thompson OAM.

          Phil, as you are generally the only person who gets anything done in Townsville, when you are successfully elected to represent Townsville in a greater capacity within the next few months, could you please do the following;
          a) ensure that the two sandbagging machines that we have are in good working order,
          b) ensure that the two machines are an adequate number to have on standby,
          c) ensure that there are sufficient and efficient policies and procedures in place governing the use of the machines for the general public.

          Kind regards
          PR

        • Heather Cannon says:

          The bagging machines are at Ervin’s depot, and the other with SES. Given both are part of the state government (SES with QPS now & Ergon at Stare Government concern) they should have there own bagging machines.

          It would look like Cr. Robinson has learnt diversion politics well, to give enough without giving away the whole truth. I remember voting for him, but mine was a choice like so many, anyone who was not wearing a team Jenny Hill T-Shirt. I do not trust him, nor his word.

          Speaking with a Sydney firm, bags that last 18 months are available, bulk rate $1.20each, which is reasonable. There is no reason sandbags were not prepared well before the rain, the chair of disaster management has a lot more to learn yet.

      • Not standing for (the recycled) Mayor says:

        The one question the Big Fella didn’t answer was the most important one. Where the fuck were the two machines during what some people are calling a one in a thousand year rain event. All the fluff about protecting assets (or was it asses) goes no where if they were just sitting in a shed while boy scouts and civic minded other people shovelled sand by hand to protect ratepayers properties.

        • The Magpie says:

          The obvious answer to your first question is they were probably in a factory in Deception Bay where they are manufactured, because the monsoon you speak of was 2019, and the TCC purchase was made in late 2020/early2021.
          https://www.townsville.qld.gov.au/about-council/news-and-publications/media-releases/2021/august/sand-bagging-exercise-kicks-off-preparations-for-wet-season

          Andrew Robinson was elected for the first time last year, so as one of the council newbies, it is not his responsibility to answer questions such as yours. Which you could’ve answered yourself had you got of your unprotected ‘ass’ and checked before posting ill informed comments.

          • Not standing for (the recycled) Mayor says:

            Magpie – I was referring to the rain event just three weeks ago when these were sitting in the depot unused. That is the question not answered.

          • The Magpie says:

            Just when were the rains of this month referred to as a one in one thousand year rain event? That description was surely for the far more devastating 2019 monsoon and nothing else, in local understanding.

            And your question is clearly answered in Robinson’s reply and in the linked TCC media release from some time ago. Christ man, there are plenty of genuine beefs about this council, without making a yourself a whinger who can’t read.

  30. Prince Rollmop says:

    Ducks Scrotum, perhaps if the previous and the current local government representatives had managed our region well, there would be no need for Phil to have to ‘meddle’ with local government matters. He can’t help it that he is proactive. and our elected representatives were/are complete duds.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Rolly, list all the things Phil has achieved for the region all by himself.

      • The Magpie says:

        Well, Tasty Bits, Phil is not in Government, and the council are the governing body locally, so this isn’t a deflective pissing content. Just stick with whatever issue is under discussion, instead of juvenile ‘playing the man’ comments.

  31. Mike Douglas says:

    Ducks Nuts . When your the Federal Member and your constituents are hit with the biggest rates increase in Qld 27 % over 3 years . In a cost of living crisis Team Hill introduced further differential rates adding $30-$50 a week why wouldn’t Phil Thompson try and get the Qld Govt / Feds and State minder to reduce the impost to families . The acting Mayor who voted in favour of Lansdown , rates increases + differential wants the Federal member to push in doubling Townsville Councils Federal Govt funding from .5 – 1 % .

  32. The Magpie says:

    Oh Really?

    We’re all used to some pretty silly headlines in the Astonisher, but this one today takes the cake.

    This council, and this woman, couldn’t exert enough pressure to squeeze a pimple on her arse.

    This paper is becoming more ludicrous by the day … but its easy to see that t has been recaptured by the Walker Street push.

  33. Echochamber says:

    In the updated article online the Bully quotes Food Trucks as saying ““We are not asking for much, just one per cent of $1 to come back to local councils from every $100 of tax paid to those in Canberra.”

    Later in the article is has her saying ““We’re not asking for much, just 1 per cent, or $1 to come back to local councils from every $100 of tax paid to those in Canberra.”

    Big difference between “one percent of $1…from every $100″ vs “1%, or $1…from every $100″….

    So which one ios Bully?

    • Achilles says:

      Please! just use the appropriate scientific approach; spin a coin, say abracadabra before the coin succumbs to gravity.

  34. Mike Douglas says:

    Does Labor and Jenny Hill have a foothold in Walker st pulling acting Mayor Greaneys strings . As Phil Thompson said Council hadn’t contacted him about increasing Federal Government taxation revenue share from .5 -1 % for Townsville ..Labor stunt election looming for Phil . Acting Mayor Greaney promised a ” fresh new start ” when Councillors voted her in . Foodtrucks platform that she should replace Jacobs as critical projects weren’t being completed . The acting Mayor needs to update the City on what she has achieved on the key projects because currently not a week goes by where suburbs can’t get the basics in bins emptied due to Council truck breakdowns / lack of staff .

    • OED says:

      It’s clearly not a Labor stunt because the Labor candidate doesn’t seem to be involved.

      More likely Greaney is trying to imitate Jenny Hill but has failed dismally because Jenny was a natural populist and Greaney isn’t. She shouldn’t have even tried this stunt – if she wants to position herself for a mayoral tilt it should be in opposition to both Hill and Troy Thompson as a no-nonsense administrator.

      • The Magpie says:

        That’s asking her to go into a battle of wits unarmed.

        But in a rare moment, The ‘;Pie agrees that it doesn’t make sense to think this is some Labor stunt … the lazst thing Canberra needs are some wild eyed Queenslanders demanding more dough of a government down the tubes already on renewables.

  35. The Magpie says:

    Good grief!!

    This is the woman who used rival Paul Jacob’s alleged lack of fashion sense as acting mayor to slip her stiletto between his ribs. And silver shoes? FFS, woman what planet are you from?

    Clr Greaney, you are one short step away from looking like a bag lady. Dressing publicly in a housecoat is no dignified way to represent the community.

    • Indecent Obsession says:

      So, what “body shaming” offering on Clr Greaney can we expect from you tomorrow? No doubt something that will bring out in force your brigade of old white men with erectile dysfunction, most of whom I assume have never met this woman who is a daughter, wife, sister and mother. “Magpie Derangement Syndrome”!! Forget that. What about your unhealthy obsession with Clr Greaney. And nary a word about the performance of any other of the 9 Councilors, most of whom are doing sweet f##k all and several of whom are being mercilessly smacked on social media for being MIA. Obviously, that doesn’t suit the narrative you’re trying to foment

      • The Magpie says:

        OK, let’s take this quasi-feminist, tiresomely outdated woke gabble from ther top.

        What ‘body shaming’? That’s a serious question The ‘Pie challenges you to answer. You are clearly confusing an opinion about dress sense – as appropriate for the person who represents us as a city – with some tired old trope about calling someone fatty or ugly (or, for that matter, old white men with erectile disfunction, readers you know about as well as you claim they know Foodtrucks) or some such. Which The ‘Pie did not do. So, in your schoolmarm moral lexicon, we are no longer allowed an opinion on public figures clothing or dress sense (or in this case, lack thereof? Good luck with that, sweetie. Where were you when Greaney and her gang got stuck into Paul Jacob when she was organising the his knifing? No hyperventilating moral high ground then, eh? Spare a thought for Paul, can’t you, he is after all a son, husband, brother(maybe) and father. No defence of him, eh, why not? Or hi poor, distraught family?

        And if I were you, might be best to avoid the term ‘erectile dysfunction’ in connection with this photograph. Some might se it as a self-fulfilling prophecy. Just sayin’.

        Magpie Derangement Syndrome??? As a half baked, hasty attempt at insult, you’ve shot yourself in your tootsie, luv … that is a term that applies to others (yourself) who are mightily angered just by the mere name Magpie. Like you. Just silly.

        And the most idiotic, confused statement of all: “And nary a word about the performance of any other of the 9 Councilors, most of whom are doing sweet f##k all and several of whom are being mercilessly smacked on social media for being MIA.”

        Whaaaattt????

        The Magpie’s Nest does little else but publicly expose the shortcomings of many of our ‘betters’ especially our councillors, there’s not a single one who hasn’t received an honourable or dishonourable mention here, and encourages others to have their say in that arena regularly. The ‘Pie has no idea what you’ve been reading (‘Little Women’ maybe) but you certainly haven’t been reading The Nest.

        Oh dear, all this thinking, wears one out, doesn’t it, luvvie. The Magpie is concerned for you … best you don’t worry your pretty little head about such things.

    • OED says:

      In this instance she’s dressed appropriately because it’s deliberately 1970s themed.

      • The Magpie says:

        Oh, mate, that’s either a very droll comment or a desperate attempt at justification.

        • OED says:

          ???

          It’s literally a ‘media stunt with a 1970s car talking about 1970s bread prices and 1970s funding arrangements? It’s a completely justified outfit in that context.

          The real issue is the wisdom of the stunt itself, not quibbling over the execution.

          • The Magpie says:

            You appear to be the one quibbling.

            But you doesn’t seriously want us to believe Foodtrucks dressed up although she was in a panto to make such an obscure point. And my memory of the ’70s is good enough go never recall that sort of garb as indicative of the time .., or as the Astonisher would say ‘iconic’. Just shows what happens when you take LGAQ suggestions for publicity

    • Mad Jack says:

      Pie, I don’t think she was representing the community on this occasion. She was, as a private person, going to the bakers, it seems from the photo. Frequently for such errands I dress like a frump, or the male equivalent, but I am clean and my posture correct, so no problem.

    • Achilles says:

      \
      Holding a loaf too! surely she should be telling we plebs to eat cake?

  36. The Magpie says:

    Oh, Bettina!! Are you going to give yourself one of your famous tongue lashings ?

    After all, this in the girly-girly magazine you edit.

    The ‘Pie was additionally pissed by being compelled to read this somewhat esoteric boring yarn to check if either of these mincers had something to do with Denmark, and this was a stock standard dad joke pun, so beloved of the paper. They didn’t and it wasn’t. It was just a glaring cock-up.

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