Yup, the circus was back in full swing on Maggie yesterday at the latest monthly ratepayers meeting … and it didn’t go well. And also revealed a double standard by one of the luminaries. The Magpie reveals just why so many islanders have no time for Greaney’s dishonest trickery in supposedly representing them.
Should the financially beleaguered Townsville City Council be forced to do a ‘Bundaberg’ … sell off council owned assets to alleviate
Pussyfooting around those council termination payout rorts. We know who dunnit, why won they sayit?
An our weekly cartoonists’ gallery from Amerika runs the whole gamut from amusing to alarming, as the Trump train veers further of the rails.
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It Was ‘Seconds Out Round Two’ At The Maggie Island MIRRA Rematch Yesterday
You’ll remember that TCC CEO Joe McCabe imposed a ban on council staff attending further meetings of the Magnetic Island Residents and Ratepayers Association (MIRRA) after division rep Clr Ann-Maree Greaney copped a bit of free and frank character reading at the December gathering. Seems Joe was keen to mend fences after discussions with MIRRA head honcho Doug Turnbull, and figured Greaney needed a bit of help to sort out some islander grievances.
So Joe and Greaney rocked up yesterday to the February meeting, but perhaps unwisely included in the delegation the portentous Matt Richardson, the council’s General Manager Property, Fleet & Emergency Management. Things didn’t go well for the man they call Major Matt, according this account of the meeting sent into the Nest soon after the knees up had ended..
Hi. Pie.
We’ve just returned from the MIRRA meeting. Greaney turned up, bringing the muscle boys with her: Matt Richardson and no less than CEO Joe McCabe. When McCabe got up and began speaking like a dignatory ( but one who says “somethink” for something) an old fella from the floor called out “Excuse me, but who are you?” There was great ceremony applied to McCabe’s presence: the first CEO to EVER visit a MIRRA meeting!
There was high farce : one resident called Mattypants a liar, Cameron Turnbull tried to evict her but she said she wouldn’t stay anyway in any meeting that allowed lying. John Wayne-like, Mattypants visibly stood to his full height and told the meeting he was “highly offended” at being called a liar; and he stood on his record of 27 years of service in the ADF.
He later lied through his teeth about the Kelly St dump, describing the harbour spoil as an all natural topsoil-like product. So, he said “that means it’s not heavy industry.”
Greaney’s looking a bit worse for wear. She said she wanted to dispel some rumours doing the rounds on the island: 1. When her husband visited the Brewery on the island he paid for his own drinks. 2. Yes, she was in Japan on holiday when the big wet came, but she came right home and she paid her own way. The ratepayers did not pay for her flights. She waved her hand like a queen and said words to the effect “So if you think I’ve done anything wrong go ahead and refer me to the OIA”.
The mood from the floor was that they weren’t fooling anyone; same old, same old. So I think their charade has done them more harm than good.
Well, perhaps it was also unwise for Clr Greaney to throw down that particular gauntlet. Because there is at least one well researched MI resident who may do just that – bring a matter to the attention of the Office of the Independent Assessor.
There have many grievances laid at Greaney’s door but the one that festers most , and is almost universally opposed by all MI ratepayers is the council decision to dump dredge spoil onto a vacant ‘community’ block of land on Kelly Street, Nelly Bay. The block is surrounded on three sides by family homes.
This plan has been a contentious issue for close to a decade now. Residents have long called for a medical centre and at least one aged care facility there, which would be appropriate to its original zoning. Then something very strange went on behind the scenes in the dying months of the Hill regime, and was apparently enthusiastically orchestrated in secret by Clr Greaney, the very person elected to represent the interest of island residents and present their objections to council proposals.
This new and incomprehensible cut and pasted change to ‘community usage’ (it just doesn’t make sense) suddenly appeared in the City Plan.
It became apparent it was a cut And paste from a very different zoning, one completely incompatible with a residential area. The alteration has been lifted in its entirety from another part of the document.
No one has been able to explain how this all came about. But what is clear in plain language is that Clr Greaney personally did Mayor Hill’s bidding, and drove the changes, shepherded a required zone change through Brisbane (which has NOT been gazetted) and pushed the motion for the change and subsequent decisions to dump sludge there against the interest of her island constituents. But then came the most cynical and duplicitous move of all by our now acting mayor … she called for meetings for consultation to get Islander’s thoughts on the Kelly street site when the decision about dredge spoil has already been made and the necessary regulations changed and unobtrusively put in place.
So no matter what the residents said or opposed, all they got of Greaney was the an arrogant finger of a done deal they were simply wasting their time by their duplicitous councillor. Her actions are diametrically opposed too the requirements in the act for councillor responsibilities about constituent representation.
Perhaps these events, which is well known on the island, may explain some of the simmering antagonism towards a deeply dishonest councillor and a complicit council. Matt Richardson would certainly have known all about this, so he must accept his share of responsibility for this this deliberate deception. But Matt, mate, you can take heart from one thing that you have in common with Magnetic Island residents – you are both ‘deeply offended’ about lying.
The damning evidence was presented to the Bulletin last year, but they not only ignored it, but printed incorrect information on the issue.
Well, no real surprise there, I guess.
There Is Another Solution For The Kelly Street Site.
The Townsville Council could do a ‘Bundaberg’ with it.
A year or two ago, the Bundberg Council, dxecided they only had one way left to reduce debt.
Since then, after genuine community consultation, that council has agreed to retain nie of the sites, but the rest will be going under the hammer in the next few weeks.
Selling of Townsville Council assets has long had its fans, especially business people familiar with the massive waste and crazy management (that you again, ‘Major’ Richardson? And that is a debate for another time.
BUT this could be an ideal win-win for the Kelly stdeet site, but only if it was offered to a residential ddeveloper. It would bring a pretty penny, but savvy developers like Peter Tapiolas would almost certainly be interested.
This option ticks all the boxes, as it addresses the housing crisis, would make the council a sizeable chunk of money, it would soon be generating strong rates income, it would benefit all parties especially if part of the land was set aside for a new medical centre, and above all it would right the massive wrong perpetrated on Magnetic Island by the disgraceful Ann-Maree Greaney.
Joe McCabe Hasn’t Been Upfront On Another Matter – And For No Apparent Reason
A couple of weeks ago, this appeared in the texts to the editor at the Astonisher
Joe McCabe has had long enough to find out who authorised the overpayments to departing TCC staff. I thought this council promised a new age of transparency.
Tom, Rowes Bay
So John of Mysterton decided to reply, but the paper didn’t publish it … although his info is common knowledge among current and past council staff.
Tom at Rowed Bay, Prins Ralston approved the payments to staff, like the Director of Corporate Services, who in addition to her excessive monetary component had her MBA paid for and now works at TAFE Townsville, and the Chief Financial Officer, legal officer etc, about one million all up for them, and Mayor Thompson approved Prins Ralston’s grossly excessive payout, worth two years of salary, over one million dollars, plus the new Toyota Land Cruiser he had for work, in total nearly $1.3m. The CEO and Mayor gave millions of rate payers dollars to help their friends and themselves. Daylight robbery, and so far no accountability...?
John of Mysterton.
Now, one wonders why they wouldn’t print that. Or maybe they did, The ‘Pie has limited endurance reading text To The Ed.
Has It Occurred To Anyone Else Besides The ‘Pie?
While The Shovel is making a valid point with satire ….
… there was one throwaway line during the tsunami of squawking about those Chinese warships that should be carefully noted here in Townsville. One expert suggested part of the Chinese covert message was that they were demonstrating if push comes to ka-boom, they could easily reach all mainland military targets missiles fired from way out in international waters.
Laverack Barracks is the biggest troop home in the country. So that would make us ….
Now we just wait for the Bulletin Headline: ‘Chinese Navy Threatens Townsville House Prices.’
Gotta Love This Bit Of Mixed-Up Stupidity From The Bulletin.
And it’s hilarity all round in this yarn about a private sign o the back of a parked ute.
The first mystified chuckle is after we read the unmistakeable and unpixilated sign, and then go to the story, the second paragraph of which is:
“a–e”? Oh, Caitlin, you shy little munchkin, are you hinting that the amended word is (gasp, clutch pearls!!) arse? Hang on let’s check … oh. yes, there it is right next door in the photograph. So while it’s OK in a photograph, the paper doesn’t tolerate ‘arse’ in print?
Then there the arse-covering (see what I’ve done there?) statement from the council that they ‘were monitoring the site and will issue a notice to any cars … displaying political signage’.‘ They were obviously were not monitoring it or the oner wold have been told already to piss off, but as usual, not knowing when to shut up, the council spokeswoman unnecessarily added ‘Council conducts blitzes in this area and other road reserves to ensure the safety of road users’. This from someone whose employer allows legitimate advertisers to install and operate often moving and sometimes video signs at some of the busiest intersection in the city, which require more than a single brief glance? And why just political signage, pray tell, you fork-tongued pricks?
And love to hear the pillow talk in reporter Leighton Smith’s household about this story … if memory serves, isn’t the Labor candidate Edwina Andrew at which this partially aimed Mrs LightOn Smith?
The ‘Pie Quite Liked This One From The Shovel
The Magpie Confesses Admiration For Our Bikie’s Mole Senator …
…. at least in one aspect. This gal, unlike others in her cohort, has no hidden agendas. She knows exactly what she wants and isn’t afraid to say so..
You’re in some sort of personal dreamtime, Senator. Sounds like you’ve encountered one too many rainbow serpents down at the clubhouse.
Say What?
The Magpie is as bad at maths as the average Bulletin reporter, so he needs help here. Trolling the daily Roy Morgan summary, he came across this.
Hmmm, 22 million on a monthly basis, but 18.4 million weekly? Now let me see, unless there’s been a change The ‘Pie has missed, there are -give or take – four weeks in every month, and 4 X 18.4m = 73.6m. It is known that immigration is a bit out of control, but somehow i don’t think that is the answer.
Anybody?
Amerika
The Mobster President’s latest move was to make an offer that Ukraine couldn’t refuse. In one of the most unedifying scenarios, Trump and assistant poisoned dwarf J.D Vance, ganged up on Zelensky, telling him black was white, night was day, an d tried to mug him for his country’s mineral wealth. But Zelensky wasn’t copping any bullying from these two gun shy braggarts, and in so doing, became the first international leader to be bounced from The Spite House. Trump didn’t have a bar of Zelensky’s counter proposal.
But as the bitter laughter dies down, here is something that should be watched by any student of this history that is being made before our very eyes. Illinois Governor J.B Pritzker is assured on remaining on the right side of history when the reckoning comes for America.
But calling Trump out for gross behaviour will achieve nothing, but The Magpie believes there is a way to drive Amerika’s new self-proclaimed ‘king’ further in King George the loony territory. asttacking Trump’s ego is likely to debiltate this arseole more quickly than any other tactic. And the way was shown during the week.
While the video is somewhat stomach churning, this hits at the Trump’s most vulnerable spot – his overweening ego. The video adds to the already widespread perception that Musk has Trump by the balls, and is the real shot caller. And doesn’t seem to make much of a secret of it. This really will wear down on the world’s leading megalomaniac, who is already showing signs of losing it.
And A Couple To Leave You With
And finally, this one … and The Magpie will admit he had to look at it for quite a while until he got it.
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That’s the week gone, we have a council meeting coming up on Wednesday, should be some interesting stuff. Or not. The donate button to offer much needed financialmassistance for Nest upkeep is below.
No need for Council to spend any $ on customer feedback research as ratepayers are holding off on paying rates to the last days possible to drain Council of cashflow . What other retaliation options do they have when an acting Mayor / Councillor Mooney ignore the divisions they represent but not returning emails / phone calls . Kerry Packer esq ” as a Council you arnt spending it that well that ratepayers should be donating more ” . Fresh on Councils legal department drafting a policy on Executive / Councillor safety is it correct Council has engaged a company to advise them who Council should listen to ? . Councillors / Ceo need to stop gaslighting the community and release updates Lansdown . Disclose who authorised the $ mil + over contract payments to 3 Council executives on departure . Disclose the critical projects suspended + Acting Mayor claimed arnt happening . 3 local State MP,s and State Government minder should push for the same .
Draining council of cashflow is pointless exercise. I gather you dislike your rubbish being collected and your shit flushing away after you go to the toilet.
Ducks Nuts as usual you don’t get it . A Council dripfeeding Operations from rates payment to rates payments is not a viable operation . Mayor / Acting Mayor have declared critical projects arnt being completed . It appears from commentator to the nest last week rubbish wasn’t collected as per schedule Annandale / Northern suburbs last week . Unpalatable decisions is what the Councillors said would be required . $335,000 for Wedgwood collection display ? .
Actually, I do get it. Not paying your rates only hurts the workers who empty your bins and make your shit flush. They are other members of the community, many of whom are also ratepayers.
Find alternative methods of protest. I believe it’s still legal for public protests in Queensland, we aren’t locking people up. Yet. Or you could start writing enmass to your state and federal members. Although I suspect that’s a futile waste of time as they have already demonstrated no one is being removed or held accountable no matter how shit they are.
Asa philosophical argument, The ‘Pie doesn’t agree with you …civil disobedience is a last resort against perceived and entrenched wrong-doing cf Mr M Gandhi in India last century.
But The ‘Pie does not think we are at that point in Townsville just yet, he agrees with you that other avenues should be explored first before the illegality and self-defeating action of withholding legitimate and required taxes … in this case, rates.
Mike, Rubbish not being collected in suburbs most likely plant failure or even not enough drivers showing up for work. M’dog might be able to help.
Bird Nads, you might not have noticed but waste bins are currently not being collected as they are meant to be. Every day equipment breakdowns, staff shortages, and no additional budget to catch up after the wet weather, mean that TCC is getting further behind rather than catching up.
You may drown in your own garbage yet.
So you think not paying your rates is a solution?
I noted the delayed garbage collection then searched finding it was cascading and around half the city affected. Your point on the catch up is exactly what I was thinking but there’s saying about 3 shots forming a group and was waiting to see if this was a one off. Looking at the crumbling nature of infrastructure being neglected within a few blocks of where I am, I don’t think it will be.
I have lived in all states bar WA & Tasmania and this is the first time I can recall a garbage collection delayed. Again could be a one off, then maybe not.
Thompson authorised $1.3M (2 years + car)
Prins authorised $1M payouts, 3 directors, 2 executives, 1 admin exec. Sewell & Bligh knew all along, advised. This Hill management cost city $500M with major projects blowouts. If Prins or executives are guilty of misuse of funds, there’s legal claw back, Thompson was conned, imagine that! Golden handshake led by the lawyers, same lawyers who assisted in removing him, might be time for a full investigation now. That, insolvency, major projects going pairshaped, 13 treasury loans, $381M debt, $100M added 2024/2025, and $100M loan overdraft, then less than $5M cash 6 months a year.
What a shit show! Sack the lot, what is Chrisafulli hiding, why protect these criminals, what is the link?
I’m the same and have already stated I think the only way we are going to get any idea on the depth of waste, conflicts of interest and if proven corruption is by dismissing the council and appointing an administrator. A full inquiry into the council books and contracts following.
I can’t see what Chrisfulli has to lose from this process and why IMO they aren’t even considering it. I wrote with my concerns to the LG Minister and cc Chrisifulli’s office in. All I got was a reply about Troy and nothing about the goat rodeo in Walker st.
This town has much potential but after the character assassination of Jayne Artlett and then the atrocious persecution of Fran O’Callaghan no wonder anyone with a bit of business nous won’t stand.
Rubbish should be pay as you throw.I pay rates for a 1/4 full bin every week whilst other peoples are overflowing.
Your thinking too clearly are you, Trops?
This is a throwback to the Margaret Thatcher years of poll tax. Poll tax was an attack on the population, ostensibly it was fair but never helped much to keep council rates in check. The theory is each resident of a house is charged by the council directly. My wages were so low as a young man in the UK , an extra tax wouldn’t make it worth working. I made some small amount of extra money in the reserves in britain but never voted even whilst in the reserves because if you voted you were on the electoral roll and had to pay poll tax. Staying off the electoral roll was the cheaper option.
Extra and increasing taxes in the west are caused directly by immigration. The UK brought in VAT in the mid 70s principally to fuel immigration. Howard brought in VAT ( we know it as GST) principally to fuel immigration, extra people require MORE services and everything. Howard’s economic miracle was immigration, whilst industry was shutting down the extra revenue was fuelling Australia’s demise. House prices went up once the immigration flood gates were opened.
Fast forward to 2025 and we are in a massive recession, businesses are closing, fuel prices, power prices, taxes are increasing and immigration means your children will most likely never own their own home. Oh yes, there’s a housing crisis too ! Like many things unless it directly affects YOU , you don’t care and vote accordingly.
The amount of rubbish in people’s bins in the grand scheme of things is meaningless. User pays and this obsession of privatisation never ends well.
Guy, the GST was not brought in to fuel immigration, not everything revolves around your obsession. The GST concept had been kicking around for decades to simplify the tax system.
And ease Cnberra’s burden and the resulting disputes dinner table disputes ‘he got more than me’ about federal distribution of state funding.
In regards to Mike’s comment about Kerry Packer, I’ve attached a link to a short 8 minute snippet from the government inquiry. I can’t remember if it was senate estimates. Packer absolutely owned the government that day. Well said. But the point is that all levels of government mismanage and misuse taxpayer and ratepayer money. Very little accountability and huge amounts of waste.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EVIOmU3l0Zo&t=16s&pp=ygUQS2VycnkgcGFja2VyIHRheA%3D%3D
A classic from a unique Australian.
“Every time you pass a law, you take someone’s privilege away.’
And how typical of this class of politicians faced with stark reality suggesting that the legal minimisation of tax was against the spirit of the law’. The fucking what?
And these are the sort of people who make our laws.
Mike is being stupid, however it’s generally best to hold off on paying bills until the latest possible date anyway.
Hello ‘Pie, it seems Townsville is a holiday hot spot.
Magnitude 4.4 earthquake rocks holiday hotspot in Australia as tourists evacuate from hotels https://uk.news.yahoo.com/magnitude-4-4-earthquake-rocks-162518002.html
TEL about to release a statement saying how they contacted UK News, suggesting the use that description in their reports.
It wasn’t an earth tremor last night. It was pissed off MI residents conducting a live firing on Townsville. ADF will confirm this after consultations with civilian pilots flying in the area at the time.
It was caused by Fatty Palmer falling out of bed.
It would be hard to go to war against China. Where would we keep all the prisoners?
haven’t you ever been to Townsville CBD? Plenty of room.
We would let them out on bale.
Why would we put them in hay?
As i lay in bed at 9:30 last night i asked the wife if the earth moved for her as well.. for the first time in 40 years she told me Yes
If you’re in bed by 9.30, presumably after having a hot cocoa while watching a recording of Antiques Roadshow, an earth tremor is about you’re only hope of an ego boost nowadays.
Pie, There wasn’t much on the commercial stations and ABC had Albo’s 36th gay Mardi Gras on. I thought the little recidivist snots had rammed my garage door. All good but.
Alcan – but she only rated it 4.7, so it was below average.
Regarding the issue with MIRRA and the block of land in question, now is the perfect opportunity for Joe McCool and the new council to fix a long standing issue for the good of the MI community. Forget dredge waste and earmark the block of land for a development that the local MI community want. That’s what councils are meant to do – act on and in behalf of their community. You couldn’t ask for a better opportunity than this for council to extend an olive branch.
There is also suggestions of further dishonesty in this matter … Greaney claimed that finance was the reason for the decision to dump, in part because the Port had refused to cooperate in dredge spoil removal to the mainland. But in a rumour that can easily be dispelled or proved, just before his removal as acting mayor, Paul Jacob rang Port boss Renee Crosby and asked why her refusal … she is reported to have said she never received any such request and had not said anything on the issue.
So Ok, Paul can you confirm or deny this report?
This is true. Gag order in place on all councillors, Greaney taking Jenny’s lead. Lead by intimidation, they all have something on them, and she will release it.
Port never received a request, it was suggested the spoil fill the right of the terminal space where a well need centre is going. The other option was a cost effective recycle and replenish on the shoreline, all denied, Greaney was the primary in this.
CC, environmental assessment carried out by SMEC Australia recommended dump site and conditions, nothing to do with Greaney. GBRMPA permit issued June 2021 long before this current council. Look up TCC eplanning OPW23/0028 for all the reports (ie. facts). There is no ‘gag’. Council officers happy to talk to telephone enquirers. Not sure where you found a list of ‘options’ for dump sites but the ‘hole in the ground’ next to the ferry terminal is not mentioned in any of the official documents nor replenishing the adjacent shoreline with treated spoil. As for whether the port has been approached re dumping spoil at the reclamation site there, as recently as a month ago the state member (Baillie) told a MIRRA meeting he had personally visited the port with the transport minister to discuss that very option. A TCC ‘Update’ informed the MIRRA meeting last Saturday that a “community briefing session”, scheduled for mid March, will inform how the maintenance dredging works will be carried out.
Nothing to do with Greaney? You really are a fucking public servant, aren’t you, Jenny, a mouthpiece for Greaney and the council.
It is reliably reported that Greaney, at Hill’s bidding, semi-secretly engineered the risible zoning change (and what a cock-up that was) and liaised with government of the day on the issue.
IT HAS PRECISELY EVERY FUCKING THING TO DO WITH GREANEY. HER JOB THEN, AND EVEN NOW IN HER TEMPORARY EXALTED POSITION, IS TO BE OPEN, HONEST AND CONSULTATIVE WITH HER CONSTITUENTS.
And what was Baillie’s summary and tentative outcome of discussions with the Port.
“Reliably reported”? By whom? “At Hill’s bidding”? Yeah, right. “Zoning change”? What zone, what change? Can you provide a single reference that a punter can check? If you want to challenge a council or state decision in some sort of tribunal you can’t make up your own facts or spray around unfounded opinions. That’s a complete waste of time. I quoted from the same reports, which you can see for yourself, that the Council will use to justify its actions. That’s why the council employs consultants and pays a pretty penny for them.
Adam Baillie made no claim about any outcome.
Every accusation is a confession. But good of you, by clear inference, to confirm you are a council mouthpiece, who else would say ‘council will use to justify its actions’? That’s a consultant ploy to ‘baffle ‘em with bullshit’.
And hang on, ‘Adam Baillie made no claim about any outcome”?
You mean the local member told a MIRRA meeting about meeting Port officials about dredge spoil from Nelly Bay and did not offer a summary of the outcome? And not one single person at the meeting asked the oh-so-obvious question “so what did they say?”. Pull the other one, it yodels.
You’re starting that well known spiral up your own orifice this morning, J (F) K. And the F doesn’t stand for Fitzgerald.
Hey Magpie, I wasn’t at the meeting with Baillie, the minister and the Port people. Baillie might have been given a briefing on what the port or the minister or the new government is likely to do if the Council strategy falls apart – which is well and truly on the cards in my opinion. I would have been surprised if he said boo to a MIRRA meeting about what they discussed. But he was interested in getting kudos for having been there and done that. The MIRRA Minutes show that Baillie said about the dredge spoil dumping:
“working but with GBRMPA and others for a solution, possibly not dumping on land still under discussion – nothing concrete yet but hopeful of a quick resolution”.
Interesting Pie, I was leaning towards short cuts or problems with enviro regulations.
Dredged materials especially around harbours where chemical contamination from marine vessels aren’t something that should be dumped in residential areas.
Anyone know if the sediments have been tested?
Dave, the sediments have been tested. Refer to OPW23/0028. There may be potential acid sulphate soils (PASS) which, if they are actually detected, will, under the current plan, be the subject of neutralisation treatment (with “agricultural lime”) at the Kelly Street site. Apparently, there are no other ‘chemicals’ (presumably you mean like anti-fouling paints etc.) present in objectionable quantities. A particular report states that all of the dredge spoil from the Nelly Bay marina and canal estate could be sea dumped (ie. “uncontained”) without any treatment at the Port’s maintenance dredge spoil dump out towards Cape Cleveland where several hundred thousand cubic metres are dumped each year from Townsville harbour and shipping channel.
A comment full of questions.
First one: ‘unobjectionable amounts’? ‘Unobjectionable’ to whom? A scale devised by boffins who don’t have to live cheek by jowl with whatever stuff may pop up? And we’re not talking backpackers dirty socks lost overboard.
‘Unobjectionable’ to someone who lives, say, in South Townsville and not right next door to a large area containing unobjectionable amounts of whatever may turn up?
But all OK, eh, agricultural lime will be sprayed and spread should any nasties occur?
Agricultural lime treatment has a number of inherent disadvantages, such as carbonation, sulfate attack and environment impact. Magnesium oxide/hydroxide are thus proposed as a suitable alternative stabilizer to overcome at least some of the disadvantages of using lime in soil stabilization.
Agricultural lime can irritate the skin, eyes, and respiratory system, but it’s generally considered non-toxic and safe for humans.
How can agricultural lime affect humans?
• Skin: Can cause skin irritation, redness, and abrasion
• Eyes: Can cause eye irritation and pain
• Respiratory system: Can cause coughing and bronchitis at high levels
The ‘Pie might add to the last bit especially adventurous kids who want to explore the new stinky dump near them.
Magpie, there are Australian standards for various ‘chemicals’ in potentially contaminated sites. If the quantity of a particular chemical measured in a sample does not exceed the standard then there is nothing, in my lexicon, ‘objectionable’ about that sample. What this means is that the spoil that will be produced by dredging the Nelly Bay marina (not the harbour and ferry landing, that is a different adjoining place) contains bugger all contamination such that it could be sea dumped in the same place where the Port of Townsville dumps its dredge spoil.
Then why won’t it be?
Now you are asking for an opinion because neither the council or its consultants has given any relevant explanation since they are committed to cut priced land-based treatment and disposal on Magnetic Island. The most likely reason is the exorbitant cost of contractors with appropriate barges and equipment to do the job – either transporting, unloading and spreading at the Port’s reclamation area on the mainland (where all the port expansion spoil was taken at enormous expense) or transporting out to the sea dumping site. A local over there pointed out to me that about a quarter of the spoil to be excavated from Nelly Bay is not from the Council ‘canal estate’ and marina but from the state-owned harbour itself. The evidence is that GBRMPA has issued a permit to the state for that purpose; the council land is not part of the Marine Park. So the state is piggy backing on this council job to get its dirty work carried out at ratepayer expense on the cheap and on land. And once they’ve established the precedent and the infrastructure on council land it can become a permanent facility. There’s a lot more muck to come to the surface yet.
Ah, so it’s all GBRMPA’s dastardly doing.
You’re all over the place, JFK, who seem to have been spooked by being outed asa council mouthpiece.
keep it comin’, gal, you’re great entertainment.
One of my majors is in this area though not used it for a long time. Do you have a link to the report, I can’t find it otherwise I wouldn’t ask.
Just curious.
Dave Nth, if you want to find these reports:
1. Google “tcc planning”, click on Planning TCC
2. Click on Application and Property Planning search
3. Click on Search for Application records
4. In the Application search box write OPW23/0028
5. Scroll down to Documents
6. Click on tiny red Acrobat symbol to the left of each report
Magpie, I’m not so much ‘all over the place’ as all over the bullshit. And it’s got nothing to do with GBRMPA and everything to do with the state government. Nelly Bay harbour is a design disaster entirely of the state’s making. The recent damage to the Sooning Street ‘bridge’ or causeway has shown up yet another design fault – there’s supposed to be a sediment trap immediately upstream of the bridge designed to collect sediment before it gets into the harbour proper. The sediment trap doesn’t work or not effectively. But we’re stuck with it. And it’s causing all sorts of environmental headaches as council and state and federal funders try to work out how to sustainably re-engineer that broken bridge.
Further down there’s a bridge to the breakwater, boat ramp and helipad under which, because of stupid, or smart-arsed design shortcuts, sand from the beach has migrated for the past twenty years and now needs to be dredged from the harbour – the state government’s harbour. Why do ratepayers have to finance state government failures? Why does Magnetic Island have to accommodate, on valuable community land, cut price cheap shit industrial processing of dredge spoil when the state government has a functioning reclamation facility ready made right next to the Townsville port?
Nice and concise. For once.
Surprised at the timing of your informative comment, though, one would imagine all the TCC media staff would be avidly watching the current council proceedings this morning and be too distracted to sent in comments to The Nest.
Oh, fucking great … now Townsville enjoys a major earth tremor just metres away from the Ross River Dam wall.
Anything else planned for us, God? But while I’ve got you, where do you stand on lightning bolts and Troy Thompson?
But kudos to the Bulletin, usually days, even weeks late with news items … they have outdone themselves this time, somehow publishing their latest update almost an hour ahead of time. The ‘Pie read the story at 10.57am Sunday.
I was impressed with the Google alert received on the phone about a second after the short jolt. It mustve only lasted 5 seconds, not even long enough to dive under the table but that immediate notification was pretty good. Must be connected to Geoscience technology as it was immediate.
Google actually uses data from Android phones to detect and alert for quakes above a certain level. Guess it makes sense as the company was founded in California.
When God created everything he needed somewhere to dump all the left over scrap and shit. You guessed it, he dumped it all in one spot and named it Townsville.
T.P.,
I think you are being a little unkind. This town has much to offer at the grass roots community level. The pox that has all but destroyed the town is Labor incompetence, ideology and bullying at a local government level. Yes, TCC governance and finances are a shitshow to bankruptcy aided by an incompetent and disengaged local media.
The earth bund dam wall is a problem, more so the pipe inside the wall. Disaster management have been worried about the pipe condition for some time, if it cracks, its losses of 80,000+, Townsville has no ability to evacuate. This latest issue is a real problem for Dawes, Robinson and team.
The additional sensors on the inner dam wall are there to measure hydrostatic loads, the dam gates opening at 100% has more to do with hydrostatic loading, then capacity, the bund wall failure is the greater risk. This tremor just made things much worse. Townsville should have moved to a Seawall type setup a long time ago as recommended under Mr Deihm. Our real risk is the wall and the pipe inside. Any other discussion is not true.
As far as I know there should be a plan for earthquakes, all dams will have this. You examine concrete wall and earth wall for any obvious cracks. The wall itself has survey points so you can see if its shifted. Given the proximity you’d assume someone will be out there soon to check if anything has moved.
The only pipes I’m aware of are part of the concrete part of the wall and are used to draw off the layer of water that’s cleanest.
Interesting earthquake, what’s the chances that the epicentre of this earthquake was under a mountain in a small army range with a large army base at the base of this mountain. In kelso the earthquake appeared as a “whooompf” – no vibration through the ground at all, my sliding door was moved perpendicular to its travel. The pressure was a pressure wave only in the air as if an explosion had gone off close by. My original thought was a gas explosion ( experienced one).
… ‘were monitoring the site and will issue a notice to any cars … displaying political signage’.‘
No more bumper stickers then? Or flags similar to the ones flown for the footy?
No surprise to hear Greaney has been telling pork pies. I’m keeping a list of them to publish in the lead-up to the next local government election. Also keeping a list of her failures, which have wasted millions of ratepayer and taxpayer funds.
I believe Mrs Greaney used to own property in Granite St, (Picnic Bay) across the road from the new brewery/beer garden and sold it not long before it was approved.
She used to often dine at the Mamma Roma Restaurant as with other council executives.
I guess she has a soft spot for Picnic Bay and explains why her family still supports the businesses there.
MM
I would hate to see the place then if she didn’t have a soft spot for Picnic Bay..
Submitting a complaint to the Independent Assessor, the CCC, or a minister about a Councillor or a Public Officer, particularly in Townsville is ultimately futile. It’s naive to believe otherwise. Councillors and public servants are well-supported by the state government here, and they know it.
Civil justice in this country favours the wealthy, and it’s increasingly difficult to find a law firm to take on cases against a government, especially when many firms are part of the government selection panels.
Unfortunately, the realty is that people are left to ‘suck it up’ and move on.
The problem will continue to escalate unless the minor political parties come together and form a coalition.
Would this be detrimental to the Country?
I personally don’t think so given some of the thick headed puppets we have running the show now.
Its obvious that you don’t feel at home on Oz so feel free to to emigrate to a cozy rock pile in Gaza.
Perhaps the councillors & TCC staff should reflect on the events & community impacts in the 1990s in the English town of Corby.
There seems to be some common element’s here.
It has been fictionalised in a streaming tv show Toxic Town
\Common elements? Like what? Seems like an unhelpful exaggeration.
The rainbow serpent couldn’t get to the clubhouse for drinks with Lidia. He was held up at a causeway on private property in WA. T
Perhaps the earthquake near the dam will unsettle the feared rainbow serpent and inadvertently release it from captivity. It will then haunt all those who use the dam for recreational activities, perhaps the dreaded serpent will even be responsible for collapsing the dam wall.
Always glad to hear from those who follow the science.
The ‘Pie has predictably received a few dad Joke level comments on the earth tremor, and almost all involved risque references, but The ‘Pie liked the exception from BT: “Heard Clive Palmer was in town on Saturday night, dropped his wallet about 9.30pm.” Boom tish.
Yep, the poor bastard was fined $2000 for building a causeway on a creek on his own property for hurting the feelings of a mythical rainbow searpent. ( It must be LGBITQ+¥E). What manner of bullshit is this. I am going to claim legal status for my childhood teddy bear. At least my teddy bear ACTUALLY EXISTS, unlike this fuckn queer snake that is a figment of the imagination.
Yes, this is the sort of gullible goody goody woke crap in extremis. It is nothing short of outrageous.
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Here’s a detailed report from the Frontline veteran site, but a word of caution: Frontline has suggested this is an ABC News report. You may rest assured it is not, unless the ABC charter has been radically changed. The Magpie cannot imagine a genuine ABC report containing statements like: ‘In a staggering display of legislative absurdity, this new law has emerged that is not only devoid of factual basis but threatens to set a dangerous precedent across Australia. Mr. Maddox has taken a firm stand against this blatant nonsense, calling for its immediate repeal before it infects other states with its sheer stupidity.
This law, based entirely on myth rather than any shred of scientific or historical evidence, represents a worrying trend of emotion-driven policymaking overriding rational thought. Without any proof to support its claims, it is nothing more than a work of fiction being imposed upon the public under the guise of legal authority.
Mind you, it would be a wonderful thing if the woke factor dozed off at Aunty and absolutely truthful statement like these were published in the public interest.
https://frontline.asn.au/news/the-dangerous-spread-of-mythology-as-law/
No one at the ABC or the WS Judiciary have tumbled to the fact that certain aboriginal jokers are making fun of us.
Serial pest and chief sociopath Twonames is at it again, writing to Leahy and recommending TCC be put into administration. He has posted this on Facebook along with photos of Hill, McCabe and Greaney. The man needs help.
This council is becoming more secretive with their new policy to no longer document and publish the minutes of committee meetings. We are actually going from bad to worse.
You have absolutely no compassion for sufferers of writers cramp or its modern equivalent, RSI, do you, you uncaring person? The council has its first duty of care to its staff.
Let Councillors and staff become even more lazy. Install Voice to text technology across Council and Joe can decree that it must be used at all meetings, discussions etc.
The new council decided to get rid of the committee structure, and now holds two council meetings per month. Minutes for the meetings are on their website.
Not sure how that makes understanding of issues clearer and better examined. An extra one or two or hours a month goes nowhere near the time and attention given previous committee meetings in which an elected member became the well informed (supposedly) representative of the elected body. under this new system, it’s back to the old aerobics class arm antics, only this time voting for reports that – as has already been demonstrated – almost none of the councillors has a clue or even curiosity about. This particularly applies to financial reports. The unquestioning acceptance (with a couple honourable exceptions)is an absolute disgrace.
Wouldn’t the non-publishing of committee meeting minutes be illegal? I know that under legislation Council has to publish the minutes of its general meetings. Just wondering if the same legal application applies to committee meetings. It’s been some time since I worked for government so I’m not sure of what the current rules state. Even if it is not a legal requirement to publish committee meeting minutes, it is certainly best practise to do so and it creates an open and transparent environment, even an element of trust and accountability. Perhaps Joe McCool has learned some bad habits while working for that shyster Tom Taint on the Gold Coast?
The ‘Pie has a dim memory that committee meetings are in camera, and there is a reasonable reason for this: it allows frankness in outlining an issue and the possible up and downsides while thrashing out a policy (which council staff are the dominant voices, unless there’s a Jenny Hill type about.)
JK
Nice bit of council PR spin, regarding the harbour dredge material that is to be dumped in the residential area in Nelly Bay.
Not one of the councillors, bureaucrats or you for that matter live on the island, let alone Nelly Bay or on Kelly St, where this sludge is going to be dumped.
None of you will have to put up with the endless noise from the trucks delivering the waste then heading back to harbour to replenish other load.
Nor will you have to endure the material being dumped next to your adjoining property, then treated with the apparently harmless lime. The noise, the smell, the dust and the damage it will do to their environment.
But not to worry – who needs a medical centre or an aged care facility? Not the island as far as council are concerned.
All’s good in the Walker St ivory towers.
Is it any wonder the island community views council and your spin as laughable.
Greaney won’t attend alone, she needs Richardson and McCabe, because she has never been able to handle negative public sentiment. This new complaint rule is due to Greaney’s boo hoo because of MIRRA. It won’t stop there though, they’ll now bring it to the chamber for further discussions. No point running away from the problem, fix it.
JK
You forgot to mention in the MIRRA Feb minutes Adam Baillie also said re the dredging of the harbour ‘ Quick survey – majority wanted spoil dumped at sea . Permits still required for dredging’.
Yet Richardson stated at the March meeting’ Council have all the permits from GBRMPA’?
Talking of Committees, I notice that after being in power for 12 months, Council still has not established any of the Advisory Committees. These committees were a mechanism which enabled the community to raise community issues with Council and to make recommendations to Council, unless he Committee Chair and/or Council bureaucrats decided the issue was an operational issue or might cause too much work for the bureaucrats. If this was the case, the issue never saw the light of day.
https://www.townsville.qld.gov.au/about-council/council-meetings/advisory-committees
As someone suggested, dumping it back into the ocean is a more viable option you are only putting it back where it came from. I don’t see why dumping it on Maggie Island is an option.
Guy, unfortunately most of the “silt” is from land run-off, due to coastal deforestation and agriculture; 75-100 years ago there were no silting issues.
100 years ago, the port hadn’t been extended so far as to block the currents and natural movement of sand and silt. In the mid 1970’s you could still visit the reef between the strand and island – it is now buried under metres of silt. Every time the port is extended, it exacerbates the problem.
Very rarely to you gain something without losing something.
White Mouse, there is an excellent 1989 GBRMPA publication available at the click of your mouse online: “History of Dredging in Cleveland Bay and Effect on Sediment Movement”, with eye-opening maps and diagrams showing what has happened to the millions of tonnes of spoil shifted since the 1880s. One diagram (p. 169) shows the historical mounds of spoil at three different dumping sites since the pre-1960s demonstrating how maintenance dredging of the harbour and channel has resulted in dispersed fine spoil of some depth now coating the entire seabed of Cleveland Bay wall to wall, covering the pre-dredging subsurface sediments. Hard to believe until the geoscientists actually measure it with probes and publish the results.
No More Dredging – where the hell are you, Old Friend?
Critical , yes stakeholders in the building / construction industry called for Council to change their minds at at least have a building committee 10 mths ago . It would remove the inane discussions taking up hours of Council meeting time in discussing racks for kayaks on Maggie Island or Councillor Jacobs / Ellis trying to redesign the Childcare building code deciding they personally would like stronger walls on childcare centres main rds . This Wednesdays Council relocating home application Mt Low . How many legal actions is Council currently involved with losing the self storage Bushland Beach in court . Councillors at Council meeting asking Council execs ” whats the likelihood of a applicant taking us to court ” . the facts are the applicant complies with Councils building guidelines and planning approved it . They have spent up to hundreds of thousands acquiring the land and application plans .
Re: Mr Maddox being fined for building a a causeway on his property and then being’s fined.
This is a straight example of bureaucratic bullying. The local abos didn’t complain. They supported it because it also gave them access during minor floods.
This whole thing was brought about bureaucrats with too few meaningful projects of benefit to all the community with which to occupy themselves.
Sounds like the bureaucrats have spare time to chase petty issues rather do some work that has positive measurable outcomes for the city.
Sounds like Joe McC needs to bring in independent consultants who are external to Townsville to realign the number bureaucrats to the work that needs to be done. This review needs to be completed and the full report released on councils website before the presentation of the 2025/202 budget so that people can see the impact
I’d expect that Council wouldn’t have the backbone take this action.
In an ideal world, maybe, but you’ve ignored thge Catch-22, and the one unwavering First Law of ‘Independent’ Consultants. ‘Whoever does the hiring specifies the required outcome’.
I am puzzled why the CEO, Greaney and Richardson had a sudden change of heart and decided to attend a Mirra meeting.
I have a feeling the main purpose of their visit to the island, was to do with an issue and planning application associated with the premises where the brewery is located at Picnic Bay.
Maybe they thought a visit there without attending a MIRRA meeting bay be perceived as biased.
Yet again, the Bulletin reminds what a serious paper it is, and how much respect it has for Townsville …. and itself.

WHAT?
NO KEL?
Bit of a bloody radical way to run a council, teaming up with a business group for collaboration.
Who?
Exactly. Who the fuck are this famous couple? So famous that hardly anybody has heard of them. And even if they were famous, who gives a shit about them and their failed relationship. More newspaper for the bird aviary.
I know we’ve covered this issue B4, but trying to watch the Premier deliver his advise on the Cyclone issues is completely disproportionate to the “tic-tac” interpreter dominating the scene.
Why can’t they just show his upper torso? for the minority to whom he’s addressing, or even better just have the wording running along the bottom of the screen where ALL of us can share the info equally.
Even when The Magpie was a tv news producer, he has always advocated that visual interpreters should always be in a box top right of the screen. This minimises the very real distraction of their antics, which, while certainly necessary, are often comical in their exaggerations and contorted facial expressions.
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I’ve got news for Sky News. ‘Queensland is not bracing for anything. The pampered rump in the south east is going to get a touch up, weather wise. Already the NBN, Telstra and other services have deployed pre-emptive pop up services. You don’t see that in the north. Nope, most of Queensland is relaxed. I expect the Feds help with their impending mould problem unlike the illogical hard-arsed assistance criteria here in the north, e.g. Northern Beaches, one side of the road qualifies for assistance, the other side not.
TBH, we north Queenslanders prepare each season for the risk of a cyclone. We are used to it and it’s part of our natural cycle. The softies down south haven’t seen a cyclone for half a decade so just on that fact alone it means that there will be some uncertainty in their minds about this event.
Most of Queensland lives in the southeast, we’re the rump!
Rump? That what Big Macs are made from?
The assistance criteria here was determined by the state government not the feds.
Foodtrucks Greaney just can’t help herself. Pictured in Kermit Green, full face of drag queen makeup and a bad hair cut, next to a weather map showing cyclone Alfred – TB ‘North offers SEQ help’ Greaney quoted as saying the SEQ, “Aren’t as reslient as we are”.
Here’s a tip for you, Start Looking After Townsville. Bridges missing, pot holes everywhere, rubbish not collected, overgrown parks, infrastrucure crumbling, and your offering help to the SEQ,.
FFS have you no shame womam.
Temporary mayor Greaney has offered to advise South East Queensland on cyclones.
Surely she’s kidding.
FFS!!! $25,000 for a couple of people doing a few dances on Magnetic Island and they can’t afford to fix the lights and loose planks on the jetty, the lights along the Esplanade, loose pavers, potholes,
This council has got their priorities WRONG, and the councillors have got no idea how to run a business.
Having watched the TCC meeting in its entirety (the things The Magpie does for you!!), it is evident that general community anger at the usual careless financial stance of this body, it was abundantly c lear that the message has finally got through. MM, you will not that an item 8 was added after some in-your-face questioning led by Suzy Batkovic (loved her comment at one stage about a $20 admission price to one group getting hefty council assistance ‘So who gets the twenty bucks?’) and Andrew Robinson who is proving to be the sanest voice on council and growing his credentials for the mayoral job. Item 8 was a blunt promise to review the council grants and partnerships policy, and to give this some filling for what would otherwise be an empty promise, it will be done before the next financial year’s budget.
All in all, what we saw today was a robust working council with sensible debate and at least one altered outcome (as above). Given this new awareness of community anger, can we look forward to some brave councillor expanding the financial discussion to larger matters, to allow ratepayers to know the real position we are in?
Troy Thompson must be ripping up his nighty.
They are all as bad as each other. They make no “savings” , they refuse to pay off the debt, money keeps getting handed over to interest groups, they all signed off on the parking meters, some of them were hard-core parking meter fanatics. People tend to forget things after a few weeks, all they have to do is wait it out. Good luck with the rate rises in June.
FFS Guy, why don’t you tell us how you really feel.
Kind of agree with you there Guy.
Now I’m off to wash myself with bleach.
A big question of the day … who the hell are Jen, Paul and Glen?
Somehow it seems with all the restraints of compelled speech and respectful addresses (Clr, Madam Acting Mayor and so on) that council staff should be respectfully named on screen (the obvious polite and no fuss way to do this is when a report is presented the top left agenda box could say ‘presented by … name and appropriate title.) These are people who are making policy on our behalf, and by having an input into our governance, should have a title.
And the chummy use of Christian names comes across as very ‘clubbish’, and that there is a familiarity (and therefore possible collusion) between councillor and public servant that the onlooker doesn’t share. Is identification some sort of PS protection from …. what?
Just a small gesture towards more transparency.
That meeting was terrible, I’m not sure we watched the same meeting magpie. I was in the public gallery and found the councillors were so under prepared. We pay these people to represent, Suzy was the worst, all she needs to do is walk 50 meters to the directors office to get the answers prior to the meeting. It’s a shit show, and now we’re paying one to sit on the sidelines too. I have disagree, Thompson and the rest need replacement, woeful.
Then we agree to disagree, CC. Concerns on certain issue are often better highlighted by questions – which leaves the onus on the PS staff to answer them and in fact, on a number of occasions, contradictory circumstances raised very good points – particularly by Robinson, as well as Batkovic and Dirou (ah, so that’s what her face looks like, you’d never know from her usual hunched demeanour in council meetings. She always seems to like she is protecting a plate of food which she fears others might want pick at.).
You surely don’t think rocking along to the director’s office before a meeting is going to yield any believable answers if the director would rather follow his/her own agenda without the pesky interference of elected councillors. Double talk reigns when not in public.
So putting concerns out there in the form of questions is a time honoured way to encourage … sometime force … accountability by the often unaccountable.
TwoNames situation is completely irrelevant to the conduct of council meetings, and although some will never be satisfied by incremental improvements, all The ‘Pie saw was a council working as it should.
Do you think these exchanges could have happened under Herr Hill? Especially if you’re name was Fran O’Callaghan?
changing your name every week does not hide who you are troy… hello again
Council Comms . Councillor Dirou was a train wreck clearly not reading the Lincoln Place development application and plenty of time before the meeting background check on an $455 mil investor who already has 26 other developments , 3,000 residents . Whilst Jacobs asked good questions on how much will infrastructure works cost , EV chargers , solar all answered Dirou ” it won’t be like a trailer park ” . Was a sigh clearly heard from the other Councillors ? . Robinson and Batkovic pushed and got a review of grant approval process . Councillor Mooney ” the City won’t be as liveable if we don’t approve these grants ” . Liam , has your $355,000 Wedgwood display made the City more liveable ? . Another Gaff from Councillor Mooney that there will be mistakes and confusion on the new 4 hr parking around Mater Pimlico . Perhaps if you took phone calls / returned emails to your division there would be less .
Greaney is laughable and lamentable. She couldn’t organise the repair of a busted footpath let alone offer to help out the southerners. What is her plan? What ‘help’ does she have on standby to assist the southerners? She speaketh with forked tongue. Just an opportunity for her to publicly make herself look good. A polishing of the turd.
Anyone wants to see what a functioning council can do, give the keyboard a break for a few hours and go for a drive through Ingham. Not a single sign that there was ever a flood there let alone only a couple of weeks ago. It looks a picture. Not a bit of rubbish to be seen anywhere. All the potholes have been filled the streets and gutters have all been swept. All the shopfronts have been cleaned and look like new. I spoke to a Businesswoman in the main street and told her ‘you wouldn’t know the town had been flooded only a couple of weeks ago’. She said we have got a new Council, all new Executive Staff and a mainly new Workforce and this is the result. She said it is a credit to the Council and their staff. Remind you of another Council, does it.
She really said all that, did she, Charlie?
And hasn’t Jayo been the Mayor for 2 terms now. Entirely new my ass
I drove through Ingham last Friday 28.2.25 and as reported the joint was clean as a whistle at least where the highway went through it. Not even water marks on the buildings. Grass was mostly cut but where it wasn’t i saw blokes cutting the long stuff. You wouldn’t know, apart from the wetlands, that they had had any rain at all, let alone a major flood.
Not sure what your point is, unless it is some sort of unfair point scoring comparison with Townsville … Ingham is 4500, Townsville close to 200,000. Totally different dynamics, it is not a matter of simple multiplication.
There is plenty of room for improvement in the TCC but silly crap like this just distracts from the real problems. It’s the sort of fallacious misleading crap that Troy Thompson revels in.
Oh, …. wait a minute …..
The point was that Ingham council had got its finger out and done a good job of tidying up. Not putting shit on anyone else.
Yeah, sure.
Tomorrow (Thursday) is International Women’s Day. TEL will be celebrating with pink cupcakes and endless banter around the lunchroom. Perhaps Greaney will join them, wearing her traditional green hot air balloon outfit.
You mean this one?

Thank you very much Pie! You have ruined my morning cup of coffee!
That has to be an AI generated image. No one would be that mad.
No Alfred, that is a new fangled thing called Photoshop and has nothing to do with AI. Damn clever, these kids nowadays, eh? And someone somewhere, with the help of an ekkie or two, did actually wear this Michelin man outfit to some prancing and posing event.
Keerrist!!!! that’s a bloody big caterpillar! Must be an early social butterfly species.
Looks like Greaney has been poked with a cattle prod, or a jockey’s jigger.
The councillor’s personal pleasures are not a matter for discussion here.
Resident sociopath Twonames Thompson has posted his thoughts on Facebook about today’s council meeting. As usual, he picks at the councillors. Of interest is how he elicits comments from his Facebook fans and he then supports their gripes about council. To be honest he has very good manipulation skills, a true sociopath in his prime. Sadly, that’s all he is capable of, manipulating people.
Perhaps people need to realise he is irrelevant. November will come, if not the complaints against him and he will be removed. The real issue is that this council has to wear the remnants of Ralston, Hilder, Ta Placidi, Richardson, Needham, Bligh, Sewell, Hill, Molochino, Batkovic, Ryder, Rehbein, Greaney, Soars and Mooney. Now we have more of the same all following Greaney’s poor fantasy. Time to remove Thompson and the rest, rebuilt and, dare I say it… Make AUSTRALIA Great Again.
Thoughts and prayers.
Come on over to the island for this, TCC information re session Dredging Nelly Bay Harbour
Sat 15th March.
Why TCC couldn’t hold this so called ‘Community Consultation’ session, where the sludge is going to be dumped i.e. Kelly St Nelly Bay, who will be most impacted?
But then council really doesn’t want to hear from the riff raff residents of Nelly Bay, we are just too honest.
Oh, Deb, you sweet innocent, you.
This is NOT a consultation session. As it says, it is an INFORMATION session.
Seems you are going to be told what is going to happen, whether you like it or not … but why they’ve booked two hours to tell the people of Kelly Street and surrounds to go fuck themselves seems a waste of TCC representatives’ precious time.
this Kelly st site had partially treated sewerage pumped over it for many years, so now some dredged harbour waste. Nice cocktail!
Totally agree, this information session will be to tell the residents what will be taking place. It won’t be to ask permission or even seek out residents concerns. Council couldn’t give two dollops of monkey shit as to what we think.
Yes, there seems to be an element of arse covering prompting this little hootenanny, a required’ well, they can’t say hey weren’t told’ethos in case something happens down the track.
What happens ‘down the track’ is what ratepayers are being softened up for. The Nelly Bay harbour is under two jurisdictions. The main harbour with ferry and barge landings and boat ramp is state government Transport and Main Roads (TMR) and remains part of the federal GBR Marine Park. The internal (‘keyhole’) marina and Gustav Creek ‘canal estate’ with pontoons extending into the water is outside the Marine Park and is Council responsibility. Council states on its website that “recent hydrographic surveys show maintenance dredging is required to restore the canal sections to their original design depths”. Hence the dredging plan. But the issue of sedimentation extends into the main harbour as well – not only from outflows from the two creeks that feed into the harbour and the migration of beach sand under the breakwater access bridge, but from the massive erosion that has taken place during cyclone events over the past twenty years as waves overtopped the breakwater displacing armour rock, lifting sections of concrete footpaths and shifting large areas of exposed spoil material off the back of the breakwater into the harbour basin. In due course this state-controlled area will need to be dredged to “restore the original design depths” in the approaches to the boat ramp and around the ferry and barge swing basin.
How convenient will it be for the state government to have elbowed TCC into establishing a permanent dredge spoil processing facility on community land in Nelly Bay so that when it comes time to dredge the main harbour, a much larger undertaking than the present one, the state can make use of the cheap and nasty dump site at Kelly Street.
Where is the state member for Townsville on this issue and will he bring news of his government’s response to the Community Information Session on the 15th? After all, the Port of Townsville has established a dredge spoil reclamation area for this exact purpose on the mainland but it also maintains a sea-dumping site in Cleveland Bay which, apparently, could be used for disposal of Nelly Bay spoil.
As you say, JF K, your council is being made a bit of a patsy in this inter-governmental game, but what are you going to do about. Pop up to, let’s say, Matt Richardson’s office (next floor up I believe) and seek his wisdom on the best way forward. Then let us know.
A question: ‘dredge spoil processing facility’? Are you saying it’s to be more than just an ugly dumping ground occasionally sprinkled with some chemical fairy dust? That actual machine processing on the site may be coming?
Richardson’s job is to make the whole thing happen before the GBRMPA permit expires on 30 June. According to his spoken words at the MIRRA meeting last Saturday, the wet spoil will be drained at the Kelly Street site, where necessary, agricultural lime will be applied (sprinkled by TCC fairies in hi-vis possibly), and the whole mess turned over and mixed by excavator or similar until testing shows it has reached an appropriate pH or whatever metric is applied. Council is patching and smoothing Kelly Street as we speak, determined to get on with it before someone finds a chink in the bluster.
Cookers on Magnetic Island stopping progress again. Matt Richardson, Ann Greaney, Greg Bruce will get their way, supported by Adam Bailee.
What progress are you referring to?
And if you, Haylee, are a ratepayer you will be paying for this fiasco. If you care about the jewel in the crown of Townsville’s natural attractions, tough titty. The shonky design, cheapskate construction and sloppy delivery of the Nelly Bay harbour is now coming home to roost. And TCC will do whatever it takes to cover the arse of the state government which not only approved it but paid for it.
With a special thanks to the greatest ever millstone around the city’s neck, Mike Capt Snooze Reynolds, puppet played by Tony Mooney at every turn.
No, TCC sooner or later has to attend to maintenance of the marina and ‘canal estate’. How it does that with suitable permits and consents to meet the requirements of state and federal interests is not in the hands of council. Why does TCC have to provide a disposal site for dredge spoil when the state and federal governments have recently used millions of taxpayer money to create a perfectly functional dredge spoil disposal facility at the port? There are other higher government questions. For example, the whole site is a World Heritage Area and the main harbour is still GBR Marine Park – the federal government has oversight. Where is the referral and consent from the Commonwealth agency? The dredging and dumping of spoil, either in the sea or on land, is under state purview. God knows who is providing the money. Each of these issues has chinks where costs can be transferred from government to government depending on how clever the politicians or public servants are. The downsides are never publicly disclosed. What we can see so far is that rather than the state taking responsibility for appropriate sustainable disposal of dredge spoil from its harbour development – which will get worse as cyclones get stronger and flooding increases – they’ve chosen a short term cut price fix which will permanently degrade Nelly Bay’s rare and valuable community land and ‘industrialise’ that site so that it can no longer serve a community purpose. There may also come to be a question around where the thousands of tonnes of treated and neutralised spoil is ultimately dispersed around Magnetic Island. Has anybody asked? Does anybody know? Or will it just be suck it and see?
After all that, then, you agree, the TCC is more in the role of an innocent bystander, dragooned by higher powers into implementing unpopular decisions.
Jenny, are you going over as ‘mouth piece’ and present this ‘edict’ to the information session?
Alahazbin, we elect people to represent us and we are free to lobby those people, at all levels of government, to nudge and pester and sometimes to win or lose. In this case our elected councillors made a decision some years ago based on the best, or at least some sort of evidence from their public servants and consultants – some of whom are based far away and have vested interests we can’t even imagine. Years have passed, the sediment load has increased beyond expectations, unintended consequences have magnified and some intrusions, like the failure of the Sooning Street bridge, have seriously compromised the decision making and funding situation. TCC is being herded towards an operation that suits higher interests who are largely invisible. This is how the harbour got built and why its shortcomings are now revealed. As an old hand in such political, environmental and social/business shenanigans, what are you doing to have your say?
So you are suggesting that the council is an innocent bystander in all, this, with little or no independence?
“Praps if they tried replanting Mangroves on the salty reclaimed sand and soil, the problem may begin to fix itself?
‘Resilience is what’?
Credibility is waning for the Astonisher.
(Even although it is a quote from a cane industry figure, it is the wrong word and at the very least have (sic) behind it if the writer knew it was incorrect but insisted on accuracy of quoting.
Like, yeah, right.
Pie, As that gentleman out west said, Georgetown I Think. “Don’t keep on calling us resilient”. I know I’m over it.
Agree.it is childish stuff, often an insincere head-pat promoted by governments that allowed dangerous situations to exist and develop (like building low set on flood plains) in the first place.
“Resilient” seems to be code for “tough titties, look after yourself mate”
… or buy better gumboots.
It’s easier to be ‘resilient’ when the government has your back. For a prescient critique of how things have reached their present state in more general terms, look up ‘Paul Harvey The Testing Time’ on YouTube. Sure, it’s US-centric, and it gets a bit God-bothery later on…but its core themes certainly seem to have relevance here in Australia, too.
A link a bit beyond you, mate? FFS!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q7kVKQpalc
Sorry, folks…
Cyclone Alf seems to have decided BNE is not worth visiting, been stationary (praps on Recky) over deeper cooler water for 3 days, odds-on it’ll either sail Northward to warmer shallower seas, bugger off to NZ, or just self implode.
Still, its giving the TV channels something new and current to fill in the days with!
The Kid will be pissed off, he was no doubt hoping for some strategic damage to push through Olympic rebuilds.
That green dress on Foodtrucks might be AI generated, but it is damn close to the mark. At the end of the day she is just like Jenny Hill and is a miserable uncouth lazy councillor who has done untold damage to our region over the years.
It is not AI generated, it was worn by one of the celebeloonies on a red carpet somewhere, and is a photoshop. Greaney is flattered by the shapely arms and nice accoutrements.
And no wedding ring !
Thank you for the post, I found it very different to the poor content usually found in the paper and online. Townsville is a great city, though it has become very rundown. I’d love to hear people talk about how we improve it, rather than how to make us look worse to visitors. Last weekend I spent at Magnetic Island and it is a beautiful place, but needs some real TLC, islanders made it clear it’s been forgotten for a long time when it comes to government investment.
To be honest, fuck the island. If you can afford to live on an island you can afford the costs that go with living in paradise. The islanders shouldn’t expect mainland ratepayers to fund their relaxed lifestyle.
Silly comment.
John tn-sd, Aheeemmmm! Australia is an island too, birds of a feather yes/no?
Anyone would think there is a CAT 5 cyclone about to hit Brisbane.
Seen a picture of a house there with a couple of hundred sand bags on the roof.
You can be sure the price of generators haven’t gone up, because of the community spirit.
That’s a stupid comment. After the amount of flooding that’s occurred in the South East over the last few years, no amount of preparation is too much. And by the sounds of things, the SE have responded extremely well since the threat was imminent. Emergency services from the north have headed south as the southern crew did during the north’s recent event. It might be the first cyclone for most SE people but it ain’t the first disaster. Perhaps the readiness of the people is because the NEW PREMIER knows what he’s talking about and actually cares about Queenslanders.
Agree Kenny. The sandbags on the roof is a sure fire way to stop flooding
Jenny Kennett . Your comment ” T.C.C. Is being herded by higher interests who are largely invisible ” regarding Magnetic island . Having a large list of clients the island / mainland . With all the changes T.C.C CEO,S / Directors / Councillors the only herding is circling the wagons . Have you been watching too many conspiracy documentaries ? .
Every cloud has a silver lining, even cloud Alfie.
Gold Coast City Mayor Tom Tate stuck in US after Vegas trip, as Tropical Cyclone Alfred looms.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/gold-coast-city-mayor-tom-tate-stuck-in-us-after-vegas-trip-as-tropical-cyclone-alfred-looms/news-story/324f0d71add2335de6711f32c04e0ee5
Hope he hasn’t got the council cheque book with him.
Of course not! he’s got a corporate credit card, probably unlimited. The 3 altogether in Vegas, get thee behind me ??????
Tait is a shonk. Everybody who is in business on the Gold Coast knows that he is dodgy. Loves his money and loves approving developments for ‘mates’. A multi millionaire Council grifter.
Stuck? LOL.
I’m not huge fan of chrome dome but note the different treatment of Tate who was on an NRL junket that wound up a week ago & Dutton going to a fundraiser in Oz.
Also note Tate has a competent 2IC, Dutton just sends out Sussan Ley (changed to name to two s’s because an astrologer told her it would be better) to mop up his messes
‘Pie, Jenny’s rants are getting a bit much, volumetrically speaking. I suspect I’m not the only one who gives up after just the first few lines.
Is this a good time to impose a word limit on comments? I’m thinking 100 but maybe a few more wouldn’t hurt.
And is going to spend time counting words, eh, eh ??
I don’t even read Jenny’s first sentence. As soon as I see the name I skip pay his/her/its comment.
Great idea? Herr Russ/Goebbels/Himmler/Putin/Trump, also …….oh, forget it….
R,
What a bloody good Idea.
And maybe some structure to the correspondence.
A subject title;
An introduction;
A main body or discussion;
Conclusions, and then;
Recommendations.
A long time ago, when letters to the editor were sent by post, and I am not bullshitting here, a succinctly worded letter, following this structure could contain five or six sentences only could make sense and brevity helped publication. Then the rot set in, letters chopped about making the author, public in those days, look foolish, stupid, and or ignorant. I stopped writing.
Now, where was I? Are yes; Attached is a link, I hope, that will assist Nesters in crafting their correspondence to Comments.
And I say in all sincerity, JSP 101 and Army Flying Orders have made me the man I am today. A very happily retired pisspot.
Perhaps youir post-career enthusiasm for the turps made you miss the second page of the link The ‘Pie has declined to publish. Guess why, just take a stab.
© Commonwealth of Australia 2014
This work is copyright. Apart from any use as permitted under the Copyright Act 1968, no part may be
reproduced by any process without prior written permission from the Department of Defence.
Announcement statement—for release to Defence and its contractors.
Announcement statement—may be announced to the public.
Secondary release—may be released to the public.
All Defence information, whether classified or not, is protected from unauthorised disclosure under the
Crimes Act 1914. Defence information may only be released in accordance with the Defence Security
Manual and/or Defence Instruction (General) OPS 13–4—Release of Classified Defence Information to
Other Countries, as appropriate.
Perhaps a prudent decision. Funny that JSP101 can be seen on the www in a number of Australian and UK sites.
Sorry been busy. Thanks for the reference Jenny Kennett, I’ve just had a quick peruse through the document list and plans for acid soils.
I was looking for more the EPBC study but do note one wasn’t completed as it didn’t fall under the regulations.
So I’m suspect already this is just another exercise to save dosh rather than disposing of the material correctly.
Maybe your program can do it for you?
So you come to The Nest expecting technical sophistication and shortened brilliance in comments. Guy, Jenny and Pat C would open a vein if such a rule was introduced.
Yeah. Obviously hadn’t thought it through. Silly me.
Hear hear on Jenny K
It’s all getting a bit boring and repetitive …… and way tooooooooooooo long
You can always skip her/his comments.
I guess so. Maybe she needs her own blog
Although Jenny’s rants are repetitious and boring, they are not as bad as Guy and his dam posts., quoting yearly totals and sediment levels.
The Nest is a broad church, and like all churches, it seems it too is an intolerant one.
A crass, incorrect use of “Carnage” to dramatise; again this time by The Australian.
Carnage as Alfred’s destruction laid bare
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news
Yep, let’s hope they remain wrong, too.
carnage
/ˈkɑːnɪdʒ/
noun
the killing of a large number of people.
“the bombing was timed to cause as much carnage as possible”