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Sunday, August 10th, 2025   |   247 comments

SHOWSTOPPER: The Bulletin’s Mea Culpa For A Front Page Cock-up Takes Us All By Surprise.

A genuine apology for poor performance by any news outlet is as rare as gay pride parades at the Vatican,  but Bulletin editor Jill Poulson didn’t flinch this week with an unprecedented apology to readers .  Could this be the much needed turning point for the paper to regain some credibility?  If this is that catalyst, it will have to go much further than just correct grammar and fat fingered keyboard mistakes,  others areas need to be urgently addressed,  including knowing what day it is – literally.

A message from afar for our stumblebum mayor-in-suspension  on how honourable people  behave when caught out doing the wrong thing.  And The Magpie has the ideal gift suggestion for this crook, from a group in Victoria.

As the saga of our con man mayor draws near an unpredictable end,  the Crisafulli Government and the hapless Local Government minister  have painted themselves into an uncomfortable corner,  as Labor mounts a somewhat hypocritical personal attack on the Premier himself.

And The ‘Pie has a sensible suggestion how any council money that is usually ear-marked for the now departing AFCM,  a project that could prove just as valuable in the long run.

And The Magpie offers a personal reminiscence of Col Joye, the bloke.

And heading our American gallery this week, an American comedian with a perfect ear gives us a brilliant, jaw-dropping impersonation of the mobster president, who is facing all those damned illegal chickens he let loose coming home to roost. Finally, a perfect storm is brewing for this disgusting muppet.

As The Nest heads towards the end of it’s 15th year,  the costs of putting it out each and every week continue unabated.  And hasn’t gotten any cheaper. If you can lend a helping hand to meet the Nest bills,  the link to donate is at the bottom of the blog. Thanks.

Friday, August 8, 2025: A Different Sort Of Sorry Day 

Newspaper apologies … often coyly labelled the less flagellating ‘corrections’ or ‘clarifications’…. are retro-court defences against possible legal action, and are usually tucked away inside the paper at the bottom of a distant page. On Friday, a flabbergasted ‘Pie wrote in comments: 

So it’s fair to say the old bird could hardly believe his eyes when he scanned today’s editorial. In 60 years in the game, he has never seen an apology of this nature anywhere in the print world.

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Well, Jill, full points for having the guts to do what no other editor before you had either the gumption or decency to do … acknowledge inter alia the appalling drop in grammatical standards of your – our – newspaper.

Although your hand was perhaps forced by the mistakes appearing on the front page, The ‘Pie doesn’t underestimate the soul-searching such an admission would require,  BUT please don’t downgrade or dismiss the regular errors littered throughout just about every edition of the Bulletin. They too – every single one of them – “fall well below the professional standards our community expects and deserves from their local newspaper”.

You’ve put the ball firmly in your own court, Jill, it is now up to you to demonstrate the sincerity of your words with a tighter policy on these and other shortcomings of the Townsville Bulletin.

Not To Labour The Point,  But The Following Is The Sort Of Cred Killer That Must Be Addressed

The very same edition featuring the spelling bloopers contained another inexplicable bit of carelessness, and while old mate reporter Cameron Bates was the journo, the fault here lies as much with the Chief of Staff, who’s job it is to keep track of these matters.

Here is how The Magpie reported the glaring oversight in comments on the day.

More of Yesterday’s News Tomorrow from the Daily Astonisher.
TODAY, we get:

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Putting aside the tedious and unnecessary use of ‘alleged’ in the headline,  it was nasty and terrifyingincident, albeit revealed in a very timely manner by an anonymous source, just when teachers and nurses and medical staff are taking to the streets highlighting the woeful working conditions they are subjected to by a tight-fisted government.

BUT it seems Cameron ‘Master’ Bates had his Ku Fu Panda undies in such a frenzied bunch, he overlooked a kinda important fact, when we read towards the end of today’s report:

Well old mate, today is the 7th, yesterday was the 6th, so our man, who can now be named but hasn’t been, has already appeared in court. Weren’t you there?

One would’ve thought if a story gets front page and then prominence inside the paper, it would be best to keep up with it.

Otherwise, Master Bates, people might start saying you don’t even know what day it is – which, in this case, you didn’t.

But It’s Not All Bad News From The Bulletin Bunker

Editor Poulson seems to be shifting her editorial policy somewhat from the inane ‘sick kiddies sell papers’  myth (God knows where they find their focus groups that advise this, possibly customers in curlers at hairdressing salons in the outer suburbs),  and instead moving toward genuine community news of importance. And reporter Leighton Smith seems to be coming good at last, his story on the planned conversion of a CBD building into student/backpacker-type accomodation was followed up by a well researched spread in this weekend’s paper about the shameful state of neglected sites around the city.

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Ironically, Leighton and other reporters have previously written glowing bullshit about many of these sites (The Hive and The North Rail Yards in particular) and he still has to prostitute himself to make a quid for the paper’s real boss, the adverting manager, with demeaning crap. (No offence to the Ahmad brothers, but fellas, you ain’t news, you just sell sliced mincemeat rolled in flat bread.)

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And please don’t think The ‘Pie is trying a humblebrag when he notes that there has been a marked decrease … massive in fact … of Dad joke punning headlines in the paper.

What TwoNames Thompson Could Learn From The Spanish

Hey, El Slimo, this is how it is done by people with a genuine regard for public probity and dignified withdrawal from office. Apparently in Spain, there is a different response when elected representatives even fiddle slightly with their educational claims.

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So you have been revealed in all your disgraceful glory,  shown up by what you and your mob would call a ‘dago shiela’. Seems there’s no relief for Townsville, which for 10 long years had a Maltese cross to bear.

But as your year of freeloading on the ratepayer draws to a close,  we all await your fate. Even you know you won’t be going back to Walker Street,  so you, you odious ball, are firmly back in David Crisafulli’s court.

And the first thing the premier could do is pull his hopelessly dithering  Local Government minister into line, following her finger to the public by stonewalling any update to parliament this week on the CCC investigation.  Rather than give a response paying due regard to this city’s nervous uncertainty about a just outcome, Ann Leahy chose to treat the matter as a political cat fight, simply because the question came from the opposition Labor benches. She wouldn’t even say if the CCC report had been delivered to her yet. Which makes one think that it certainly has, because a simple no would hardly be controversial given the legislation which controls the CCC.

Crisafulli needs to get on top of this one before it really blows out into a wider controversy. His government is already playing ducks and drakes on the crime issue, using a spurious QPS report (if it even exists) claiming a trial of vehicle immobilisers was canned ‘because the devices were ineffective’ and (believe this if you will) “they raised concerns about the potential for immobilisers to be used coercively in domestic violence incidents and to escalate violence during vehicle theft”.  Which will all remain a load of hot cock until that report is released to the public, which it has not – no reason given and none can be imagined.  It truly was an inexplicable move, given the seeming intractability of the issue. 

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But The Kid has other dodging and weaving to do,  at the moment trying to weather a personal attack on him by an albeit hypocritical Cameron Dick about his private business dealings. prior to becoming premier.  It would seem he has some explaining to do, especially as the matter involves sleaze bag grant rorter Rabieh Krayem.

The Kid needs to be careful with this, a drooling Jarrod Bleijie is hovering, ready to use the support he has. been quietly gathering over the past year, to taske over Crisafulli stumbles.

But Could The Thompson Issue Be Cause For A Local Referendum on ‘De-merging’?

The ‘Pie had a laugh when he spotted this.

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Seems no one told us that we’re now a capital city. Oh, wait, maybe they mean Cairns. The horror!!!

But with our population now past the 200k mark (due mainly to ADF boosts), another nascent idea that has been idly floated by a few around town, came into focus.

It is undeniable that the TCC under Hill had grown further and further away from both its constituents and it’s core responsibilities in favour of chasing hazy aspirations of big city glory.

So here’s a question being hesitantly asked: should we ask for a referendum of Townsville ratepayers and citizens whether we should ‘de-merge’, that is, go back to being the twin cities of Townsville and Thuringowa?

Looking into this seemingly impossible suggestion, The ‘Pie contacted a number of people, with many out in the old Thuringowa boundaries looking back nostalgically for what they believe were the good old days.

While current legislation, and the eye-watering costs to the state of previous de-mergers (Cairns and Livingstone are the closest example) make it an unlikely scenario,  there are some factors that support the idea.

Most agreed that the TCC seems to have lost sight of its core functions, which are summed up in the cliche of ”rates, roads and rubbish’.  Parts of town are indeed looking shabby and unloved. A leadership that chased dreams of vast schemes and many an untenable project distracted elected councillors and their staff from ensuring those underpinning crucial functions were maintained.   There was also a feeling that bureaucracy was taking over more than is desirable, and the average punter is, layer by layer,  being further removed from the process.  Those who lived in Thuringowa were in the main the ones that resented Beattie’s bullying, forced amalgamation,  and voted solidly to oust Labor’s Tony Mooney and install ‘their man’ Les Tyrell at the top of the new super council. (Sadly, we know how that ended up.)

Another problem emerged a few short years after amalgamation, in that the projected efficiencies of scale – the mantra that big is better –  hadn’t eventuated, and two councils looking after a smaller area could now be more efficient, given technological advances.

Long odds of it ever happening, but as long as we have a vacuum of responsible respected leadership, both elected and appointed,  the idea may grow more attractive as the Walker Street behemoth grows ever bigger and more remote from that mythical yardstick of democracy, the man in the street. (OK OK  settle down, ‘person in the street’ if you must).

The Lesson The Townsville Arts Community Can Learn From Nelson Mandela

OK, so the AFCM has gone off to Cairns, and its loss is keenly felt by a local community which wholeheartedly supported it for so many years. Many have told The ‘Pie their biggest frustration is that there is no one particular person on which to focus their anger and disappointment, it was perhaps an inevitable eventuality of geography and perception.

But those still smarting from what they see as ill treatment, perhaps need to remember this.

Screenshot 2025-08-09 at 10.22.16 pmAn eloquent thought from an eloquent man,  and a lesson from which we in Townsville can learn.

Simply put, we must move on, and here is one way that The Magpie thinks is highly achievable. This idea has been hovering in the back of  mind for years, ever since Townsville’ VP 50 celebrations in the mid-90s.  There was a forties themed dance , a sort of overflow event for those who didn’t quite make the VIP  A list knees up elsewhere.  It held in a airport hangar where the music was to be provided by a military band.  Heavy on the brass and woodwind, the dozen or so players, resplendent in dress gear,  looked quite dazzling but The ‘Pie was ho hum, a night of John Phillip Souza and a section of obscure old British military staples.

I could not have been more wrong. Polished and professional was to be expected, but the repertoire of show tunes and musical gymnastics with pop tunes current and recent was a delightful surprise. (As was the nimble and elegant performance of Bulletin colleague, Andy Toulson, who  stopped the  show with several show-stopping eye catching turns on the dance floor with her hubby … unforgettable!).

And those memories came back to me with all the chat about the loss of the AFCM.  What could the musically minded patrons and performers do now without the inspiration?

Well, how about this? Townsville is a city chockas with musical talent, many who would play for expenses and a glass of warm Kangra Rouge afterwards, and we already have the Barrier Reef Orchestra which even might consider this idea themselves.

So why not form a pared down version of the stupendously successful Boston Pops orchestra?  Unlike the excellent Barrier Reef Orchestra, this would be a commercially aimed exercise, to introduce new audiences, and ease them into the classical world. And while The ‘Pie is no Theodore Kucher, he is not suggesting another 70 players a la the BRO, but perhaps 30 to 40 tops.

The repertoire should not be favourites aimed at an established classical audience,  its appeal should be directed unashamedly towards  more a commercially saleable product, persuading new ears to further musical adventures. This could be achieved  by inventive orchestral workings of show tunes,  swing classics,  blues and witty versions of current (if any are remotely playable) pop songs.  Light classics could be interspersed throughout, maybe acting as an introduction to the ‘heavier’ more introspective  end of classical music (believe it, you really do need some preparation for a Wagner Ring Cycle, and some of us  will never be prepared for Mahler.) Children could be attracted by staples like Peter and The Wolf, Townsville has no end of fine voices for narration.  Accomplished guitarists in the popular arena could join in for special concerts, an irresistible amalgam of styles.

The difference from other ensembles is putting such music in an orchestral framework.

This is all about accessibility and saleability, not a suggestion to boost our civic sense of self-worth.

The love and pride we have in Dance North is perhaps more honoured in the breach, but a Townsville Pops Orchestra ensemble could grow to be real crowd puller. If a reputation can be established, big name guest artists could be attracted here.  While grants would be available from a number of avenues, this is an idea that could, if not turn a profit, significantly defray costs.

It has often been disappointing that around here, the general attitude to many initiatives – some doable, some not, but all always worthy of sensible discussion, -meet the standard barrage of reasons why something cannot be done.  Whether this idea is ‘doable’ or not,  any discussion should start at the other end of the spectrum, that is, how can we make this happen?  That is the only path to the true answer of the prospects of any venture.

Just a thought.

Amerika

It is now apparent there are two weak spots in Teflon Don’s armour. There’s the on-going Epstein stuff, of course, but then there is his tendency to lose it big time when he cops humorous criticism or parody.  His reaction to the TACO tag (Trump Always Chickens Out) was classic Streisand Effect, reacting in such a way to greatly amplify the joke.

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So he is going to HATE this if he ever sees it, it is the wonderful mimicry – if you close your eyes and listen to this, (roll through to 20.20) you really will think you are hearing the voice of Trump.  If you take the time to listen beyond the couple of minutes of Trump,  this bloke’s  Obama is equally good, and he so accurately demolishes Elon Musk, J D Vance and Ronald Reagan as a bonus.  And it doubly delish because the voice that has Trump down pitch perfect belongs to the comedian who performs under the mononymic name of Godfrey … who is black.  The whole hour is not just funny but instructive with details you probably never knew. If that’s what blows your dress up … if not, moving on …

The phrase, which backfired from the outset … Trump Derangement Syndrome … is suddenly crystallising into it’s literal meaning.  Who but a deranged mind would reach this conclusion.

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But those chickens are inexorably coming home to roost, along with other policies that will degrade the average American’s lifestyle, and not just in the shops. Schools, health care, pensions and jobs themselves are under open attack.  Come to think of it, apart from  billionaires, everything isn under attack, including morals, ethics and the value of truth.

but the tariff issue reminds The ‘Pie of the old racist joke, what is the difference between a Kiwi and a computer? Answer: you only have to punch information into a computer once. (boom tish). So it seems the same could apply to the MAGA morons.

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The Magpie’s Ode To Joye

The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.

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The passing of Col Joye during the week no doubt prompted some nostalgic memories and reflection on the massive changes of time and place in Australia’s popular music landscape.    Joye was a true icon of the watershed era in Australia’s musical history,  and H.P Hartley’s famous opening line of The Go-Between sums up perfectly the stark changes in our national musical identity.

Although much of Col’s music owed a good deal to C&W, he was the first Australian of the ‘rock and roll’ generation to reach number one on the local charts.

Colin Jacobsen was born in Sydney in 1937. Exactly 20 years later, he burst onto the musical scene in 1957,  changing the name of the original The KJ Quintet (the initials of his brother and bass man Kevin) to Col Joye and The Joy Boys.  Two years later, the song embedded in the memory of all early boomers, Bye Bye Baby Goodbye,  hit the number one spot on the Sydney charts. This was followed by three further Top Ten hits,  but it wasn’t until 1973 that his single Heaven Is My Woman’s Love (with the little Brisbane outfit the Bee Gees doing backing vocals) hit the national number one spot.

He remained a force across the industry until the last few years,  summed up in the tribute from ARIA CEO Annabelle Herd: “From music to TV, publishing to concert promotion, artist management and live performances, Col Joye made a remarkable contribution to Australian music for more than six decades. At a time when the local industry was dominated by US and UK artists, he proved that Australians would embrace local artists and local music.”

Most have probably forgotten it now, but Joye was an unwitting but leading figure in the fan wars of the late fifties and early sixties.

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For many teenagers back then, the split was between the clean-cut images and hummable rhythms of Joye as opposed to the Wild Child persona of the more visceral Johnny O’Keefe.  Indeed, to invoke some forgotten language, O’Keefe was the hero of the leather clad bodgies and widgies of the day. It all seems so tame now, but O’Keefe was the bad boy of rock, his Shout sending parents and prissies into melt down (although you’ll note in the clip that the screaming audience remained seated throughout – seems totally weird nowadays).  Joye just kept to his lane, never provoking or escalating the fan controversy that was very real at the time.

I  met ol twice over the years, the first time when I had just started in journalism at NEN 9 in my home town Tamworth.  In 1966 or 67, when Col did a gig at the local Workmans’ Club., I interviewed him pre-show, and he invited me to join the after-concert  party.. He was chatty, friendly, never up himself and while a few of us, including his roadies, made the most of it, Col just remained an affable, gag-telling figure throughout.

The second time was some 20 years later, when the sliding doors of life decreed that in 1985 while I was working an Channel 10 as a sports reporter/producer, I was lunching alone in the media haunt the Peacock Gardens Chinese Restaurant in Crows Nest.  Col and several companions -including one of his roadies from the Tamworth party – took a table near-by. Now I’ve never been sure why,  maybe someone had an extraordinary memory, but seeing me alone,  Col invited me to join them – yes, he really was that sort of bloke.  We subsequently swapped some TV gossip and even relived the Tamworth night, of which there were a few highlights glossed over.  And still, Col Joye hadn’t changed one bit … affable,  and always more interested in those around him than putting himself in the limelight with endless anecdotes that others in his position may have regaled us with.

Hope you enjoy the clips of a past era, and remember as fondly as I do, Col Joye,  a persona who embedded his music into the memory  of a whole lucky generation.

Vale.

At To End, A Problem Solved

A problem easily solved for free … give the lamb to Troy Thompson.

Then it will always have an arsesole to shit on everybody and everything

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247 Comments

  1. Mark the Jazz says:

    Magpie I think you need the Townsville Concert Band to spearhead your idea. Also not sure the Barrier Reef Orchestra has 70+ members.

  2. Pedant says:

    Re. the lamb born without a rubbish chute — I would be more concerned about the mother, or the attending veterinarian’s competence except for the fact that I know there are now practically no competent journalists writing this stuff.

    “… after the animal’s mother died and now requires surgery costing upwards of $8000.”

    A bit late for Mum, you would think.

  3. Katy Taggart says:

    Love today’s Magpie, the Bully Editor missed a spelling mistake on another front page.
    Friday 25 July spelt hospital wrong it was spelt hosptial. No one caught it, proof readers must have been having a snooze.

    • Toy Thompstain says:

      Most users of our local newspapers buy them solely to be used as a liner for the canary cage. Hence spelling mistakes aren’t important. Plus, the revenue from the newspaper sales comes from the dozens of pages of Harvey Norman ads, not from the stories, hence the editors and journalists not really giving a shit about spelling mistakes in the articles. Either way, these mistakes are an embarrassment.

  4. Prince Rollmop says:

    As for The Bullshittin and its spelling mistakes, it’s a hack of a rag. A front page headline cockup as we just saw is a woeful mistake. Tow-bit editor and two-bit journalists like Lighton Smith make this a newspaper to avoid. Save your money people. If you want tomorrow’s news today, just pop in to the Magpies Nest. For a small yearly contribution you will be better informed and have a lot more fun.

    • The Magpie says:

      Tow-bit? Could do with a bit of subbing yourself, Mopsy. And when there are signs of improvement, surely encouragement is better than continued denigration.

      And The Magpie points out that no contribution is required and certainly not mandatory for anyone to enjoy the Nest. And certainly no guarantee of crystal ball news.

    • Ironic says:

      Go easy on the Hatorade Rollmop. You’re sounding like a tow-bit pot calling the kettle black.

  5. Maggie May says:

    I have noticed an interesting pattern regarding visitor behaviour on the Picnic Bay Mall.
    As you all know, most businesses moved or closed down because of the loss of foot traffic and support from the public when the ferry moved to Nelly Bay. There is now more dwellings than shops, leaving only a commercial property at either end.
    What puzzles me though is the continued preference for walking along the inland side of the the esplanade, despite there being a footpath on the oceanside with stunning ocean views offering a more inviting coastal experience.
    It leads me to wonder, do Townsville visitors have an aversion to the water? Or could they be suffering from a subtle case of crytoscopophilia?

  6. Deduction says:

    Like the majority of comments on this blog, the following wild conjecture, unsupported by any facts.

    Perhaps Thompson has already reached an agreement that sees him out of the mayoral role for the balance of this council term. Consider:

    1. The (then) newly elected Crisafulli would be likely to seek an outcome that limited any risk of embarrassment to him and his government from getting Thompson out of the mayoral role. The best way of doing that would be a negotiated outcome.

    2. Crisafulli would be reluctant to be portrayed as “paying out” Thompson, but a suspension on pay is a supportable (albeit objectionable) means of getting money into Thompson’s grubby paws.

    3. It is possible that late last year Crisafulli had a minion go to Thompson and say something like, “in two weeks time the Local Government Minister is going to find that it is in the public interest to dismiss you, unless before then you provide two letters, the first asking to be suspended for 12 months, and the second being a deed binding you to (either resign or accept a dismissal without you then bringing legal action).

    If we get those letters you get 12 months pay. If we don’t, you are shit out of luck and can take your chances with the courts. Either way you won’t be mayor during this council term, but you can always nominate for the next term of council.”

    The result would be a tidy quarter million for Thompson but not too much blow back on the government, and Thompson out of the mayoral role entirely risk free to the government.

    If the deal is already done, then that would explain the government’s no comment policy and absence of any haste (or interest really), and explain why Thompson is spending all his time trying to trigger the end of this Council term (although spite would be a reasonable alternative motivation). He is narcissistic enough to think he has a chance at reelection, and an early end of this council term just shortens his time out of the limelight.

    Time will tell.

    • The Magpie says:

      Well, Tr … sorry, Deduction, that theory … on the face of it possible, the sort of wishful thinking yo … sorry, TwoNames would cuddle himself to sleep with.

      But it misses a major stumbling block. The CCC investigation must be an actual happening, completed or otherwise, and it would be very difficult for the government to ignore any negative findings and recommendations without releasing said findings and recommendations to the public. Otherwise, it could find itself in the document on massive corruoption and conspiracy charges … real and greatly illegal conspiracy.

    • Achilles says:

      D..D,,, you should stay away from the A.I. Ouija board.

    • Bob says:

      Deduction, two missing bits in your conjecture. First there is no evidence or even a hint that back last November Thompson provided some sort of secret deed to the Crisafulli government binding him to either resign or accept a dismissal without then bringing legal action, after serving a 12 month suspension on full pay. Second the Queensland Industrial Relations Commission is still considering whether to reopen Thompson’s million dollar discrimination claim, with Commissioner John C Dwyer yet to hand down a decision. So many moving goalposts, none of them upright.

      • The Magpie says:

        You still hanging around here, Troy, replying to your own comments?

        And your grasp of language qualifies you for a gig at the Bulletin … there would be no evidence of a secret deal … because it is secret!!! If there was evidence, it wouldn’t a fucking secret would it, clothhead?

        Get it.

    • Blue Bells says:

      Deduction, like your comments on this blog, the wild conjecture, is unsupported by any facts.

  7. Elusive Butterfly says:

    https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/business/townsville-business/ahmad-brothers-build-townsville-foodie-following-for-their-kalidad-kebabs-stores/news-story/1da2d8285e3a39e11c151f82ae98e2ba

    “Townsville’s ravenous appetite for authentic Turkish flavours has helped two brothers forge a fledgling kebab shop empire after expanding into a second store in Idalia, with another store on the way.”

    “RAVENOUS APPETITE”…”AUTHENTIC”…”EMPIRE”…???

    “The business quickly gained a cult following from the community”

    Really…CULT?

    You couldn’t make this shit up unless you were a third-rate Townsville Bulletin “journalist” trying to keep your job…

  8. Who funded Crissafulli's bailout? says:

    ABC story on Crissafulli refusing to say who helped him pay the $200k . The electoral acts require all loans and payments including getting discounts or deals too good to be true. Remember that the Vic lib leader had his Deeming costs debt paid by a lib donor who expected quid pro quo. Cameron Dick asks who has a spare $200k laying around with a straight face. It’s absolutely certain the answer is plenty of Labor MPs , lobbyists and mates benefiting from donor tender deals will have it laying around

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-09/qld-premier-david-crisafulli-liquidator-payment-property-loss/105615298

  9. Grumpy says:

    Happy Birthday, Old Bird.

  10. Bentley says:

    The state of Townsville roads is pretty bad, but they’re excellent compared to poor old Maggie. The patch-ups are the worst I’ve seen. Perhaps it’s part of the charm of the place.

    • Bentley says:

      PS. It’s nevertheless still worth the drive to Horseshoe Bay to the Barefoot Gallery restaurant for an excellent lunch at a reasonable price served by management and staff who engage. I only mention this because of frequent disappointment with alternative eateries. Q

    • The Magpie says:

      The ‘Pie has always felt that the unfair characterisation of Maggie islanders as whinging and selfish moaners is completely unfair. It seems to come from a mindset brought on by a mythical disconnect of a few kilometres of water. We get a lot of justifiable complaints about council performance in places like Idalia, Wulguru and the northern beaches, but they are never lumped into a single locality group and branded selfish and self-entitled.(Except maybe Walker Street).

      Just like any other area, MI has it’s share of noisy wingnuts and developmentally delayed claqueurs, but it is not as though the general island populace is any different to any other segment of Townsville. Most accept that their well-being depends on visitation, and most don’t see it as an exclusive area just for some sort of tropical idyll of retirement or basket weaving (the raffia mafia).

      EXCEPT FOR ONE SALIENT POINT.

      Unlike the other mentioned areas, Magnetic Island is far more important to the city’s economy than any equally sized residential area, and its maintenance and amenity should be far more highly prized that it currently is or has been for the last 15/20 years. Fixing and maintaining roads and infrastructure on Magnetic Island carries the extra priority of pan-city prosperity than just meeting obligations to general ratepayers.

      • Clarabelle says:

        Pie
        The island also has its fair share of proprietary snobs. “How long have you been on the island?” There are some who really seem to believe they are island royalty…

        • The Magpie says:

          That echoes the oft repeated idea here on the Big Island that your considered a local after 35 years here. Which, considering how fucked up things are, has led to plenty of people, some who’ve been here 50 years, replying, ‘Oh, not long, 10 years or so.’

        • Maggie May says:

          Totally agree with Clarabelle.
          That whole ‘I’ve been here for thirty years’ line gets thrown around like it’s a trump card – as if the longer the time spent here automatically gives seniority.

          • The Magpie says:

            What it actually means is that those using that line have stood on the sidelines and watched the deterioration but done absolutely nothing to stop it. The business community’s cowardice in the face of Jenny Hill is nothing to boast about … at least Lancini upped stumps, bluntly saying he couldn’t do business here while she was mayor. But now, we’ve given him nothing to come back to, even he felt like it.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Magpie… they did nothing in the face of Mooney and his little mates either so the blame can’t all lie with Jenny. After all he showed her how to play the game.

          • The Magpie says:

            In that case, she wasn’t a good pupil.

  11. Barfly says:

    I see the TCC is advertising for a Planner, for a position in the office of the CEO.
    Must be in relation to giving planning advice to McCabe when he gets his new delegation of powers.

    • Sir Rabbitborough says:

      Previously , the council delegated the vote on approvals for donors to the CEO because of conflict of interest . But that made it obvious the CEO was a party stooge in the minutes. This looks like they aren’t even going to bother with the charade.

    • Zerosumgame says:

      Judging by the pay, it looks like a lower level position. If you look at the attachment, it says it reports to a coordinator, not the CEO.

  12. Chasmac says:

    Magpie, when you state that most Maggie Islanders “accept that their well-being depends on visitation, and most don’t see it as an exclusive area just for some sort of tropical idyll of retirement”, you make it sound like the relationship between North Ward and the Strand – you know, CWA villas, low rent boarding houses and no parking meters! There are so many exceptions to this observation and so little public data to support it I wonder whether TEL could be commissioned to tell us who we are and what we want? They (ie. TEL) might start by acknowledging that the Island is the most visited and accessible part of the GBR World Heritage Area (bar none) and that many visitors come here specifically to experience and understand that unique status and see what we do with it, how we manage it and how we present it. Many locals, especially hide-bound Townsvillains, refuse to accept this international status and don’t mind that TCC is still arguing the toss 44 years after the UNESCO declaration. Sad really.

    • Clarabelle says:

      I’d add to that Chas, by referencing the impact of Izzy’s Koala World. Magnetic Island is no longer just about the Great Barrier Reef.
      For those who haven’t caught up, this Netflix series is so popular around the world that we are literally seeing international tourists bringing their children to the island hoping to catch a glimpse of Izzy. This kids program profiles the Bee family’s 20 year history of caring for koalas. Magnetic Island has one of the last, if not THE last populations of healthy koalas in Australia. Koalas are threatened with extinction by 2050 if nothing changes. But where is the government support for the wildlife hospital the island so desperately needs to protect them?

      • The Magpie says:

        Nothing to do with your informative and welcome comment, but doesn’t Kangaroo Island in SA have too many koalas? Didn’t I read somewhere they were culling them by removing large numbers of them to a suitable mainland site?

        • Clarabelle says:

          Kudos to you on your birthday, old birdie. You don’t miss much.
          Indeed, much discussion around 2017 about overpopulation on Kangaroo island. Mother Nature took care of that with bushfires a few years later. With subsequent regeneration, new fears of overpopulation., countered by allegations of land clearing deliberately destroying habitat.
          Add to that deliberations over which populations in Australia are Chlamydia free and you have the perfect political football. No government feels the need to act.
          Just out of local interest, DNA studies of the Magnetic Island population show they have been exposed to Chlamydia , but they don’t develop the disease.

          • The Magpie says:

            Ummmm, that last line … we are still talking about koalas, aren’t we? Although nothing would surprise.

      • Alahazbin says:

        “Magnetic Island has one of the last, if not THE last populations of healthy koalas in Australia.”
        Clarabelle, You’re right, Maggie isn’t the only place in Australia with a healthy population of koalas.
        There is Raymond Island just of Lakes Entrance in Victoria. So healthy in fact that they sterilise the males when the population gets out of hand

  13. Al says:

    HAPPY DAY MATE !!!! I reckon the number represents a milestone. It did for me last year. I’ll have a large one for you tonight.

  14. The Third Reader says:

    Happy birthday Magpie. Hope you have an enjoyable day.

    • The Magpie says:

      Thanks, mate. Crikey, you’ve been hanging around the Nest for 25 years now. What staying power!!

      • The Third Reader says:

        A good reason for the longevity Pie. I enjoy your work. I was a long time scribe and photog for a national magazine back in the good old days of paper publishing, and did work for other publications as freelance. Bruce McDonald and Doug K were my introduction to that field as a contributor. There’s a timeline for you.
        During our time together Malcolm you have taught me a lot about what is good journalism and the media and how it operates. Scary at times, but it helps me make sense of the shit world we are in and heading further into.
        I continue to swoop on every warble you issue and can see no reason for that to change.
        Hope you have had a great day mate. As my grandkids say, happy 2u 2u

  15. Lab Rat says:

    Fantastic news that Labor is going to recognise Palestine. A historic moment when Australia grew up enough to not blindly let the USA dictate our foreign policy.

    • Boris from Wondie says:

      Seriously, who gives a fuck. Labor should spend more time trying to fix problems within Australia, rather than stick their nose into the Israel issue. Not our fucking business nor our problem. These zealots are fighting over a religious issue, so fuck em, let them sort it out for better or worse. Where’s their sky god now??

      • OED says:

        It’s in Australia’s economic and national security interests to live in a peaceful and orderly world. People who suggest that we stick to issues inside our own borders are working against our national interests.

        • The Magpie says:

          Yes, and some of those people are blind-eye hypocrites, arguing our minuscule contribution to greenhouse problems …but we are one of the planets largest coal producers, but claim innocence because we sell the rights to it to others who burn it elsewhere.

    • OED says:

      It’s an historic moment but not unprecedented – we recognized China before the United States.

      • The Magpie says:

        What next? Recognising the Kingdom of Troy?

        • Bob Roberts says:

          Townsville is the kingdom of Troy.

        • Southern Comfort says:

          Quoting from the movie Field of Dreams, “If you build it, he will come!”. And that way he could move himself off to there and leave the rest of us in peace.

          The question is where to build it? Given the way this thread got to this point, I’d suggest somewhere “adjacent” to those areas of trouble. Never know your luck, a stray missile might then obliterate it.

    • Jeff, Condon says:

      If Anal thinks Hamas won’t hold real power, he’s more stupid than he looks. And they won’t tolerate Wong because of her gender and sexual orientation.

    • Alahazbin says:

      Labrat. What a dickhead. And Hamas will keep going with their murderous ways.

  16. Woodduck says:

    Happy birthday mate

  17. Batty boy says:

    Magpie, your opening comment was “genuine apology for poor performance by any news outlet are as rare as gay pride parades at the Vatican,”. There are actually many homosexuals in the Vatican, both priests and general workers. The hypocrisy of the Catholic church is breathtaking. They teach one thing from the Bible, then practise another. It’s well known that Priests also have a penchant for younger males. All religion should be banned, abolished, done away with.

  18. Doug K says:

    The Third Reader’s reference to Brumac and myself brought back happy memories of countless lost nights at the Newmarket Hotel in the good old days when journos frequented local bars to get story tips (nowadays they just sit in the office and publish media releases).
    Some of the goings-on back then were outrageous.
    I recall one night at the Newie when a disgruntled customer, who had been thrown out of the pub for playing up, sneaked back in, grabbed a fire hose and sprayed the diners in the packed bistro.
    In the words of Mary Hopkin: “Those Were The Days”.

  19. Ballchinian says:

    I see Elusive Butterflog has popped in for an irrelevant and pointless comment. The flog has been quiet, must be busy doing under the table deals with select councillors.

  20. Tucker Perc says:

    Snake Chalmers and nutless Albanese are again looking at tax reform and a possible GST increase. Obviously it costs a lot of money to fund our politicians luxurious lifestyles l, not to mention giving our taxpayer money to the WEF, UN, Israel, Ukraine, pacific nations, and anywhere else excluding their own Australia. We need a revolution in this country. Off with their heads.

  21. Grumpy says:

    Is it just me or does the embattled chief of the plods union look like he should be a Greens senator?

  22. The Magpie says:

    Why is this even a discussion?

    Given our bold multicultural adventure, it is a slam dunk our flag and other national symbols should have legislative protection.

    • Alahazbin says:

      Phil won’t get much from that labor lot. They can’t even have the flag behind them these days. They prefer the abbo flag.

      • The Magpie says:

        Hahahaha … let’s get this straight – you are quoting John Howard from almost three decades ago on a matter of free speech? A few things have happened since then.

        But if actions are included in free speech, let’s take your, and Howard’s, benchmark that though repugnant, and even deeply distressing to some people, burning the Australian flag is OK. So, logically, free speech in your view doesn’t brook any selectivity or exceptions. So you obviously agree that its OK for pedos to flash children. I mean, it’s his clothing and his body, he can do what he likes with it, repugnant maybe, but he’s entitled to his right to free speech. Yes?

        • Ducks Nuts says:

          It’s a fucking flag magpie.
          Get your tighty whities out of the knot they are in and get over it.
          No I don’t care if people burn flags. Flags are symbols. Burning a flag doesn’t destroy anything other than a flag.
          I care if they burn more significant things like books. I care when knowledge and information is destroyed. I care when people’s rights are taken away. But a piece of cloth with an emblem on it is just a symbol. It could just as well be a tshirt.

          • The Magpie says:

            You’re right, it IS a symbol, a symbol of a society and the country in which they live. So when you burn the flag, your free speech saying what?

            You really are a virtue signalling twat sometimes, Ducky.

          • Bullshit says:

            Australians are allowed to criticize their own country.

          • The Magpie says:

            David McBride might disagree with that assertion.

          • Headmistress says:

            It really is just a piece of cloth ( we all know this of course)and an action purely intended to shock . Result acheived. Enter stage right Phillip Thompson predictable as always. But really Ducky, you seem like a you have the capacity to understand that humans are wired to respond emotionally in a certain way to symbols and flags. Safe to say many of us have a deep and visceral reaction to the sight of the Nazi flag and symbol even though on the face of it, it is just a piece of cloth or a design. Myself, I dont see them as some kind of coded value system..but many do and as someone not born here, I respect that. The performative burning of the flag is disrespectful. If it were the Aboriginal flag then it would also justifiably upset and anger many people as they see it as a symbol of their culture and identity. Many are affronted when national and cultural symbols are defaced and flags and symbols are for many steeped in meaning. How about we dont burn any flags? (with the exception of the Nazi flag) Can we respect those for whom the flags have meaning tied to their own identity? While the law can’t or shouldnt tell people what to think or force nationalistic values, there really should be a financial penalty for the destruction of the national flag as public property.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            You shouldn’t worship symbols.

            Besides.. where do you draw the line? Is it an issue for you if I burn a hat with the Australian flag? Or one of those miniature Australian flags? Or do you only get bent up when its a full size one?

            The whole argument against burning flags is pure unadulterated nationalism. It’s a step to the right.

          • The Magpie says:

            You’re right, symbols should not be worshipped … in and of themselves. But symbols are created – now stay with me here, Ducky – to be symbolic, to express something much wider and all-embracing, like a society and its values, and the very country in which that society lives. Symbols are created because it is the only way to express a set of beliefs, morals, freedoms, opportunities, possibilities. The Australian flag is a symbol that reflects all that and the only way its laws and its values can be succinctly expressed. Supporting the flag, and more poignantly, fighting under it, is supporting the community we have created, and it is a poor debater who resorts to the match box instead of the ballot box. Those who burn flags are offering only their opinion of Australia without the inconvenience of saying exactly with what they would replace those values and laws.

            But burning the flag within the confines of the Palestinian and the Gaza Catastrophe doesn’t just make a weak argument for a short-term goal, it attacks the very country that gives shelter to so many of those persecuted … and not just Palestinians, but thousands from across the Middle East’s evil theocracies and fascist monarchies.

            Now militants among those who have accepted the personal freedoms that Australia offers threaten to turn themselves into a social cancer. The symbol of which is a burning flag.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Oh Magpie… what if I want to burn Nazi flags.. and the odd Russian flag, and an occasional MAGA flag? Should that be a criminal offence? They are all symbols and flags. Lawyers are excellent at “interpretation”

          • The Magpie says:

            But they are not the symbols of the society of which you are a part.

            Your floundering now, Ducky.

          • Bob says:

            Magpie, it is one thing to express reasons why flag burning might offend you, but it is another thing altogether to devise legislation to ban it within the Australian constitution. There are some neat arguments put forward in this publication:

            https://www7.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/UWALawRw/2008/4.pdf

            A couple of quotes –

            “One might wish for more rationality, less superficiality, diminished invective and increased logic and persuasion in political discourse. But those of that view must find another homeland. From its earliest history, Australian politics has regularly included insult and emotion, calumny and invective, in its armoury of persuasion…This is the way present and potential elected representatives have long campaigned in Australia for the votes of constituents and the support of their policies [Phillip Thompson take note]. By protecting from legislative burdens governmental and political communications in Australia, the Constitution addresses the nation’s representative government as it is practised. It does not protect only the whispered civilities of intellectual discourse.”

            “The Australian flag may not engender the same kind of mystical reverence that its American counterpart is said to evoke. But it remains a potent, evocative and enduring symbol of Australian nationhood. In particular, it has come to embody the people and events that forged and, in times of crisis, defended the democratic institutions and liberties that are the bedrock of the free, open and tolerant society that Australians enjoy and for which they are justifiably proud. It should come as no surprise then that the public desecration of the Australian flag provokes such strong and visceral reactions.
            It is, however, worth keeping in mind that people who desecrate the flag often do so to protest against the conduct of an Australian government of the day which they consider is at odds with that free, open and tolerant society which the Australian flag symbolises. In other words, it may be that those who revile and those who engage in flag desecration have a similar underlying interest: to protect and honour the values and ideals embodied in and represented by the Australian flag. And in a society like Australia – which is built upon and governed by the rule of law – it is natural and also welcome that it is to the law that people ultimately turn to vindicate their respective interests in the desecration of the Australian flag.”

          • The Magpie says:

            Christ, come next Australia Day, Woolies and Coles will have various forms of national flag in stock, under a loud, shouty banner FIRE SALE!!

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Ah, well, I beg to differ.
            There was a nazi march in Melbourne last week. And I’ve definitely seen the others on display in Townsville.
            Perhaps you should get out more.

          • The Magpie says:

            You’ve just rep[lied to yourself. Who did you mean to reply to?

          • ABS says:

            Magpie, you’ve been told over and over again how the comment threads work on this site. After a certain point, you often have to reply to yourself because the platform limits the depth of the threads.

          • The Magpie says:

            That’s news to The ‘Pie, and he has been told no such thing by anybody. Where did you get that information? Can’t find anything on WordPress about it.

            Genuine question, not a shot.

          • The Magpie says:

            And besides, if that is the case, logic would suggest that the opening line of a comment says to whom it nis replying.

        • Bullshit says:

          Nothing has happened since then that changes anything.

          If we didn’t ban flag burning after 9/11 and during the so-called global war on terror there’s no need to ban it now.

          This dumb stunt won’t stop a single flag from being burned it will just give it more attention.

          • ABS says:

            Good point – this won’t stop any flags being burned, it’s just virtue signaling on Thompson’s part. He and the flag burners are on the same side – stoking outrage to get attention.

          • The Magpie says:

            And you’re not?

            He’s paid to represent the views of his constituents. Any bets where those sentiments lie in Australia’s biggest garrison city? Or shouldn’t their view be heard, Mein Herr?

            He’s just doing his job.

          • ABS says:

            If he wants to do his job for a change, he could try proposing legislation that actually serves a purpose and delivers a result.

            And judging from the mood of the comment section, it’s debatable whether he’s representing his electorate’s views.

            Lots of Australians have died for our right to free speech.

          • The Magpie says:

            Well, we’ll soon have you opinion about support put to the test, since Thompson has started his own petition to back his proposed motion to parliament.
            https://www.philthompson.com.au/australianflag/

            here are a couple of other petitions in circulation on the same topic.

            And on your last, it seems to prove the established belief that democracy is the only system that offers its opponents the chance to destroy it because of its principles.

          • Bob says:

            Magpie, one might also argue that Phillip Thompson is re-inventing a wheel that has already fallen off the axle. That piece I linked earlier also contained this statement:

            “In any event, it is reasonable to assume that most Australians may consider protecting the symbolic importance and value of the Australian flag to be an important if not overriding public purpose. But is making its desecration a crime ‘necessary’ to secure this purpose? In other words, is it possible to preserve the Australian flag as a symbol of our nationhood and national unity without making its desecration a crime? The answer must surely be yes. The Australian Government already fosters national unity and our sense of nationhood through its coordination of events such as Australia Day and Anzac Day. More specifically, it could promote a National Flag Day and fund school education programs that teach its historical significance and potent symbolism. Indeed, a conscious decision by the State to tolerate this form of symbolic political protest may even serve to strengthen rather than dilute national unity and pride as Scalia J suggested during argument in Johnson, the most important flag desecration decision of the United States Supreme Court:
            [W]hy did the defendant’s actions destroy the symbol? … His actions would have been useless unless the flag was a very good symbol for what he intended to show contempt for. His action does not make the flag any less a symbol…. I think when somebody does that to the flag, the flag becomes even more a symbol of the country.”

            Phillip Thompson appears to be dragging out a hoary old chestnut that will get nowhere because it doesn’t address the fundamental failures of previous attempts to criminalise desecrating the flag. He probably knows this but will proceed anyway because it will look good on his ‘garrison city’ CV.

          • The Magpie says:

            In reply, please note the Magpie’s previous reply to Ducks Nuts.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Historically attempts to make this a criminal offence have failed.

            1989
            2003
            2006
            2016

            All failed for good reason. So this will likely fail too.

          • The Magpie says:

            Yes, it almost certainly, much the massive migrant intake which has so dramatically changed the landscape of our major population centres, makes it a good debate to have against the backdrop of shifting loyalties and cultural perceptions.

            And The ‘Pie thinks it would be a good idea to lay off the moral vitriol and high minded virtue signalling in regard to Phil Thompson. Given his background, location and position, it would be more surprising if he hadn’t hit out at the flag burning. So he is just doing his job, reflecting the views of many of those who elected him, and not just the khaki vote.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Lay off Phil Thompson? Oh fuck off. The man is a short shuffle from KAP politics and dog whistles at far right ideologies.
            And while I have the greatest respect for our military, people like Phil are not included.
            His greatest achievement is getting his staffers to write letters to local government politicians and slipping them to the paper to publish.

          • The Magpie says:

            He’s the one who was elected.

            Just as a matter of interest, did you serve?

        • Bullshit says:

          That pedos comment is pretty silly – first of all, Howard said the flag burning was political speech. Flashing kids is not political. Second, flashing kids is harmful to them and burning flags is victimless symbolism.

          • The Magpie says:

            First of all, taking John Howard as a torchbearer for moral probity is shaky ground indeed.

            And who says the stress of seeing the Australian flag being burnt by masked hooligans is victimless, and doesn’t harm the emotional well being of some.

            As for the pedos issue, which was an example given simply following the logic offered, so lets go a step further … you would, on that line of thinking, defend anyone who exposed themselves to children on the proviso they hung a little sign on their dicks saying ‘Vote Liberal’ … and that, you argue, would make the act political.

            You are the best named contributor to The Nest.

          • ABS says:

            Mildly upsetting adults is not remotely harmful or comparable to flashing kids, and obviously making a political statement at the same time wouldn’t justify it. If you don’t have anything serious to say best to stay quiet.

          • The Magpie says:

            Christ, look who’s talking!!

        • Jeff, Condon says:

          Totally agree.

      • Alahazbin says:

        I thought someone would come up that old chestnut. You didn’t surprise you scroat. Straight from Penny Wongs hymn book.

        • ABS says:

          Someone has a case of Penny Wong derangement syndrome.

          • The Magpie says:

            An observation not necessarily replying to your implied allegation.

            As a matter of language, The ‘Pie has often wondered which MAGA boob thought up the original Trump Derangement Syndrome slogan as a slur on an opponent, inspiring a lot of imitation and adaption as above. But it is really a stupidly self-defeating phrase because it logically makes one think it is a criticism of the mental affliction of the person named. Especially when it was supposed to defend a deranged President.

            So ABS, in terms of logical language, you seem to be suggesting that Penny Wong is deranged.

            (The ‘Pie has the same objection to lazy and linguistically ignorant use of the suffix -aphobia, ).

    • John Wilkes Booth says:

      It seems in some quarters it is OK to burn, in public, our Australian National Flag, and in other quarters, to look the other way.

      Try burning an Aborigine flag in public and see what happens.

      I wish Phill Thopmson every success.

      • The Magpie says:

        One is a national flag that belongs to everybody, the other is a divisive racist flag that represents 3% of the population.

        • John Wilkes Booth says:

          Yes.

        • Bullshit says:

          Given that the Aboriginal flag is an official national flag, the bill should also prohibit desecrating it. They could also make it an offence to interrupt welcomes to country while they’re at it.

          • The Magpie says:

            It may have happened somewhere sometime, but The ‘Pie hasn’t seen or is aware of any indigenous flags being burnt. Also, its ‘nationality’ is one of the more disgusting, insincere sops by coprolitic politicians to a serious social issue.

            Introducing the bogus WTC issue to the core issue is a total canard. And the widening of further comments to include will not be published … The Magpie’s rules on free speech are not a universal right.

          • ABS says:

            Seeing welcome to countries disrespected is upsetting to some people. We’d best make sure no one is ever confronted with something that triggers them.

          • Chasmac says:

            Magpie, at the height of the Nelly Bay harbour controversy in the late 1980s a scatter of Aboriginal stone tools was found on the reef flat, right where the excavation for the harbour was planned. It was the genuine article although there was some dispute about whether it was exactly ‘in situ’ or may have been shifted about by waves and floods over millennia – there were dozens of shaped ‘tools’ and hundreds of shards and core stones. Almost immediately an Aboriginal presence was established in the nearest location and soon a ‘flagpole’ was erected at low tide with an Aboriginal flag flying. Late one night the flagpole was knocked over, the flag was retrieved and taken to the mall outside the Picnic Bay pub (which belonged to the developers and was the stronghold of the pro-development crowd). The flag was ceremonially burned amidst scenes of unceremonious laughter and revelry. I think the tools are now collected at JCU.

          • The Magpie says:

            Who put up the flagpole?

    • Big Mac says:

      I think freedom of speech trumps the atavistic desire to implement blasphemy laws.

      • The Magpie says:

        There is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech, and anyway, your stupidly irrelevant statement is referring to an action, not speech. In Australia, if you disagree with parts of policy or aspects of society, you go to the ballot box, not the match box.

        But just to be clear before you hit the AI key again, you’re OK with people burning the Australian flag, right?

        • Bullshit says:

          Symbolic actions count as speech or lots of art wouldn’t be covered.

          • The Magpie says:

            Then there is no such thing as free speech … ask your neighbourhood Nazi, or Muslim zealot.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Thats a stupid argument Magpie. Hate speech and violence is not free speech.

          • The Magpie says:

            Ah ha, but who decides? The Jews? the Muslims? Venal jelly-backed, shape-shifting Australian politicians? You?

            And isn’t burning an Australian flag therefore hate speech?

            Muppet.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Well Actually Magpie burning a flag is almost always considered to be a political act.

          • The Magpie says:

            In that case, like all political acts, it has the ability to be a criminal act.

            But listen, the majority make up their minds about what rrstrictions society is subject to, that’s called democracy.

            Wetting your pants about some imagined draconian limitations on your ‘limitless’ free speech is all just gum flapping flapdoodle.

          • ABS says:

            Burning an Australian flag isn’t necessarily hate speech, you’d have to get the religious police onto it to determine whether the offender is sufficiently blasphemous.

          • The Magpie says:

            Checkout the modern accepted meaning of blasphemous.

        • ABS says:

          If you don’t understand what AI is and how it works, best not to accuse people of using it, Pie.

      • The Magpie says:

        And go easy on the thinking, not your style.

      • ABS says:

        Blasphemy laws is a good way to describe it, we can get some Saudi style religious police to protect our sacred Australian flag beach towels and budgie smugglers from being desecrated

        • The Magpie says:

          There’s a big difference, one that clearly eludes you, between ‘sacred’ and ‘honoured and celebrated’.

    • Damn tailings says:

      I thought after 9/11 there were laws in place prohibiting the showing of the flags of terrorist organisations; yet protestors carry ISIS, HAMAS and Taliban (not sure of terrorist status) flags on the streets. Aren’t these on the same level as Nazi flags?

    • ABS says:

      Bad idea. This is just playing into the hands of the flag burners.

      Ben Franklin’s quote about people who give up liberty for security deserving neither doesn’t even apply because this bill is giving up liberty for no reason except a few snowflakes getting triggered.

      Best way to deal with flag burners is to cite them for air pollution or violating a fire ban.

      • The Magpie says:

        No constraints on anything, eh? That’s just a concept for snowflakes is it? Let it all rip.

        Now let’s start deciding which side of the road we fancy driving on today, shall we?

        You really should stop reading Anarchists’ Annual, mate.

        • ABS says:

          Driving on the wrong side of the road causes actual harm, now sure why it’s so hard for you to understand that.

          • The Magpie says:

            It is my point entirely, you find it hard to understand that burning the national symbol of the country you live in also causes actual harm. Now gives us a bit of flummery about you’re definition of harm.

            You really are a bloviating fucking idiot.

      • Jeff, Condon says:

        You wanker. Take a gander through the Australian Constitution and you’ll see that complete freedom of speech doesn’t exist. It is countered by that which may be committed with the intention to cause offence.

        Without doubt, burning the national emblem is intended to cause offence.

        • ABS says:

          Not at all, it would be up to the religious police to determine whether the intent was to cause offence or to make another political point.

          • The Magpie says:

            Now these political police, who would appoint them? Politicians? The clergy? The Mullahs already exercise this power, what next, Seventh Day Adventists? A religious person of any faith deciding what is offensive is the ultimate irony.

  23. Prince Rollmop says:

    Successive governments have failed our country. Billionaires not paying tax, mining royalties going overseas rather than into our own pockets, assets being sold off to international conglomerates and a failed NDIS scheme. All a waste of money. Meanwhile we have high pharmaceutical, energy, insurance, and mortgage/rent costs. We have struggling businesses and record homelessness. The middle class has been eliminated entirely. The lucky country has become the fucked country. Pathetic politicians too busy promoting diversity, the rainbow brigade, First Nations crap, and funding international offensives and forgetting their homeland as being the priority. Out of control immigration numbers have helped to expedite Australia’s demise. As a proud Australian I lament how expensive, inefficient, and how politicised our beautiful country has become. R.I.P Australia.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Aww diddums. Had a hard week have we?

      • Prince Rollmop says:

        Perhaps I did, but at least I didn’t burn a flag in response to my bad week. Ducks Nutsack, some weeks you post reasonable comments that are worth reading. Other weeks, including this week, you post complete shit that indicates you are a few slices short of a loaf.

        • Ducks Nuts says:

          No loaf here. Bread is bad for ducks.
          Also no flag burning. But I dont care if you do. Feel free to burn symbols of the far right though, like MAGA merch, or Nazi flags. Or should we treat them with dignified respect?

          • The Magpie says:

            Burning any flag is an admission of losing an argument through lack of logic, burning any flag is by your own admission, Ducky, is hate speech. There will always be someone who thinks the act is justified, and there will be those who don’t. The majority will out.

    • John Wilkes Booth says:

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-13/australia-is-a-homeowners-welfare-state-making-inequality-worse/105620522

      And PR, to improve your morning mood 1/ taxing the family home is being considered and 2/ Australian has more yoga instructors than carpenters. (Source ABC RN interview)

      • The Magpie says:

        In the statistics of professions exposing bum cracks, how to yoga instructors compare with plumbers?

        • John Wilkes Booth says:

          Don’t know Pie. Plumbers were not mentioned on that interview. What I do know is that it is equally difficult to get a carpenter or a plumber to carry out household maintenance.

          Years ago, again on the wireless, a commentator (can’t remember who), lamenting at the lack of manufacturing in Australia and in particular the loss of car manufacturing, stated that Australian was becoming a nation of baristas.

          Same sentiment, different analogy.

          • The Magpie says:

            Well, no humblebrag but The ‘Pie pointed out a few years ago that in Townsville, we’re going to end up just selling cups of coffee to each other.

          • John Wilkes Booth says:

            How sad.
            Better if it were pints of Guinness.

      • Prince Rollmop says:

        JWB, yep, I’ve been watching Snake Chalmers as he circles the average Aussie looking to extract more flesh. Labor grubs want people with super balances over $3 million to pay more tax. Some politicians will be exempt from this proposed tax, which is a joke. $3m sounds like a lot of money but in reality it’s almost the value of one Sydney shitbox home.

        A rise in GST is inevitable. It’s been a talking point for at least 15 years. Whichever government introduces it will be ousted at the subsequent federal election, but hey, they need to feed the military industrial complex and fund wars. Money has to come from somewhere so don’t be surprised if GST is raised to 15% within the next 3 years.

        What’s next, up the pension eligibility age to be raised to 80?

        • The Magpie says:

          Re pension comment: fine by The Magpie, as of last Monday.

        • Guy says:

          Bingo Bangor

          The “Australia” corporation has just bought a trillion dollars worth of weapons deals and drops a million new recipients needing power, water, hospitals, schools , roads, houses.

          The liberals would do the same, it was Howard that brought in GST and started selling off valuable publicly owned assets. Gough whitlam’s son sold off the NRMA.

          We are ruled by criminals.

    • Bullshit says:

      Christ, you sound like Guy. You’re just getting old like he is and the world is passing you by, get over it.

      • The Magpie says:

        Drop the ageist attitude, Bullshit-head.

      • Guy says:

        Corporations love GST up because it means the government returns to draining the citizen rather than wealthy corporations. When the government runs out of money they start attacking the profits of corporations to get money. One day GST will be 25%.

    • Blue Bells says:

      Billionaires are subjected to the same tax that mum and dads are for their fish and chip shop. They get better returns with their business and are better at managing their money with the laws in place.
      The mining royalties increase in Qld initially saw a rise in revenue to the State coffers, then a drop in revenue from GST from the Feds, which was proportioned to other states because Qld was doing well. A sugar hit that will have long term ramifications, but Govts. in this day and age only worry about their current term and how they can get re-elected.

    • Guy says:

      Yes it’s over, Australia entered the event horizon after the 1980s, they just didn’t know it or care.

  24. Barfly says:

    Albo just released statement about Robo Debt. Says it raised off 1 $billion dollars, was unlawful and sadly people died over it.
    Someone should go to jail inc Morrison

    • The Magpie says:

      For once, we’re in total agreement.

      Robodebt is in the same area as the Post Office scandal in Britain, and even there, none of the executive or bureaucrats have been held accountable, while people known to be totally innocent are still jail for a major computer fail.

      We shouldn’t let Morrison or the bureaucrats be unaccountable. And this was a government that sent McBride to jail for telling the truth about Canberra’s duplicity. The trumped up national security charges are laughable next to Robodebt.

  25. Rotten Luck Willie says:

    A seasoned street smart murderous Ex KBG dictator and an old senile, serial bankrupt, golf cheat, come clown, come wannabe dictator walk into an Alaskan bar …..

    Courtesy of Maga Morons and and electoral system not fit for purpose, world peace, justice and stability is in the hands of a fool and his sycophants.

    WWII started in 1939. Maybe not. Now considered by scholars the war started in the early 1930s, accelerated from 1936 with Hitler’s election with German militarization and preparation for war in the full view of Britain and Europe.

    Let us now return to the barroom in Alaska with the murderous Ex KBG agent and the fool.

  26. RatePayerWithAMemory says:

    When Troy is rightfully returned as Mayor, there’s going to be a long line of red faced locals who’ll have to admit they got it wrong.

    The Magpies nest will suddenly go very quiet, and all the loudest critics will pretend they ‘always had doubts’ about the smear campaign. Some of us didn’t buy the gossip and grandstanding from day one and we looked at results, not rumours. And when the dust settles, the people of Townsville will remember who actually delivered for them and who just squawked from the sidelines.

    • The Magpie says:

      Thanks, Troy. Comment published for its amusement value.

    • CCC for the win says:

      When 2 names is arrested and charged, there will be laughter and cheers with celebrations in the streets.
      God save the King, because nothing will save the Mayor.

    • Headmistress says:

      And his decades of documented deceipt, fraud, financial mismanagement, stalking , harrassment and misogyny will disappear too right? If he is returned, we now all know what he is and nothing will change that.

    • Troy Thompstain says:

      Definitely not Twonames writing style. Most likely a bored Nester taking the piss and having a bit of fun. But worth a giggle as this is exactly what Twonames cooker tribe are thinking, that he will soon be back in the mayoral possum furs celebrating his return by presiding over the council chamber like the king of England.

      • The Magpie says:

        The council chamber would prove to be his Bosworth Field for this moral hunchback. Lots of nice car parks around to dispose of him.

  27. Achilles says:

    If Putin lands in Alaska, isn’t there an international arrest warrant current (from the toothless UN joke) to introduce him to the same incarceration (read carelessly left open window) he practices back in his Stalinist regime?

    • Achilles says:

      OOOOPPPS!!!!! maybe Putin-the-boot isn’t up to date when it comes to history.

      His KGB Mob rewrote everything and anything to fit Jo’s fantasy’s even including Shakespeare was a Russian.

      So maybe he thinks that Alaska is still part of Russia, and he believes that he’s meeting Trump on Russian territory?

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      The US doesn’t recognise the ICC arrest warrant because they no longer recognise the ICC

  28. The Magpie says:

    Too good not to share. More to highlight Albanese and Labor’s over-estimation of their own importance than the issue itself.

  29. Eyes wide shut says:

    My prediction for when that wanker Thompson gets sacked, and there is a mayoral election, the following will run;

    1. Guy Reece
    2. Michael Kopittke
    3. Frothy Molachino

    I could be wrong but it’s going to be interesting to watch it all play out. Who knows, maybe the barroom brawler and Harpic will also have a tilt at the $250k role.

  30. The Magpie says:

    The TCC has taken the unusual step of taking its fight with the unions over pay to the public, putting out a media release outlining their side of the argument.

    This is clearly a negotiating tactic seeking public support to put pressure on the unions. Neither side could care less what the general public think about it all … so long as it doesn’t affect them. So, did you note that alarming claim that meeting the union demands would require a 20% rate rise? Here’s the the council’s full summary of its stand, which is quite detailed.

    https://www.townsville.qld.gov.au/about-council/news-and-publications/media-releases/2025/august/balancing-fair-wages-with-financial-responsibility

    There a few questions to be asked here, the principal one being, had the TCC and the striking unions asked for their claims to go before the independent umpire before the workers walked off the job? Which is without a doubt where it will end up anyway.

    Are the unions happy trying to force a massive rate rise onto ratepayers? Or is the council just adopting a worst case scenario tactic to pre-emptively blame the unions if workers win their log of claims?

    Of course, the council has a credibility problem simmering in the background, when their CEO of average ability gets closer to $800,000 than $600,000 a year, and at least three of his executive officers take home more than $350k. These are vastly inflated salaries that can’t be justified by simple council to council comparison. And anyone who trots out the tired old mantra that ‘you have to pay top dollar to get the top people’, just haven’t been paying attention for the past 10 years.

    However, The ‘Pie knows running a class envy financial argument is never going to go anywhere, but just for the fun of it, a driver who requires special skills to operate a modern garbage truck gets about $72,000 a year. And no long lunch, car lease, phone or laptop perks.

    Whatever the outcome of all this, we know who’s going to get the pineapple in the literal and metaphorical end, don’t we, folks? Us muggins.

    • Blue Bells says:

      The Unions at every Govt. workplace have been pushing strikes and unsustainable wage rises. Perhaps they don’t like the current State Govt. opposed to the best interests of the workers and the people.

      • Mdog says:

        Most of this city’s council workers are rate payers. The unions are supporting the claim and, the members made the decision to take industrial action. The members are asking for a fair agreement, considering the stagnation of wages and the growth of Townsville, new technology that requires skilled and, highly trained staff. There is no mention of why the council is in financial strife and, who put us there. The unions are just doing their job, supporting their members, in a negotiation with their employer, during the eba negotiation period and process. If anyone out there had a job, with holidays, sick leave, and any other entitlement, thank unions and their members, that not only negotiate these conditions, they also provide a flow on effect to other workers, who are not covered by unions, and go through the hardships of loss of pay through industrial action. So before the union bashing starts, everyone that earns a wage should be thanking unions for what they receive, without them, our wages and conditions would mirror third world countries, hope that helps.

        • Ducks Nuts says:

          On point Mdog. So very true.

        • Blue Bells says:

          23% wage rise is not sustainable. Every ratepayer in the city will be penalized. Considering the majority of TCC’s income is from rates, then we all suffer forever for the benefit of a few, and we all will have another significant rate rise next year.
          Since the budget has already been finalised and adopted, what will be slashed, and where will the extra money to pay wages come from?
          Unions have had their place but at what cost. Our GDP is made now from the care industry. NDIS, aged care etc, all funded by the Govt. 50 years ago we made stuff, built stuff, grew stuff.
          The car manufacturing thanked the Unions as they left the country.

          • The Magpie says:

            It’s not helpful top widen this localised dispute in a broad-based old us and them, lefties v righties, mud wrestle.

            The questions here should be confined by relevance, like has the council refused to examine alternative methods to underwrite any wage rise at all? Can Labor point out any such avenue, or are they fine accepting the rise will be funded by more ratepayer pain?

            And how much of all this power posturing as a negotiating tool until some sort of compromise is reached? And perhaps the most important question is, has either side baulked at taking this to the independent umpire for wage disputes? If that’s where they end up, why the fucking strike action now?

            It’s a tale of two bullies.

          • Airline says:

            Blue Bell ‘Surely when you prepare a budget you take into account any wage increases ie wage increase pertaining to length of service, promotion within the company and What Union Awards are for re-negation in the following period .The Budget is prepared by the applicable Manager (and in my experience) forwarded to the applicable Financial Manager for approval. It would that Council Financial don’t follow this proceedure. It will not always be 100 % accurate but it is a better guide than nothing at all .Budgets are prepared in May/June for the following Financial Year (July/June)

    • Percy says:

      Pie, more importantly, what does Troy think? No doubt this wouldn’t happen under his watch. He is the font of all things operational, he would’ve influenced a positive outcome for all parties. There is nothing he can’t do, just read his CV!

    • Gobbler says:

      20% rate rise? Where the heck did they work that out from. If you estimate there’s around 80k rateable properties at roughly 5k per year on average, that calculates to around 400mil income. Then 20% if that is around 80mil to cover the pay rise? Wow, the few hundred or whatever workers sure will get a nice pay rise from that.

      • Ducks Nuts says:

        Apparently maths is not a strong point in this council administration. Probably why we’re in a shit place financially

      • Gobbler says:

        Just a correction to my previous comment. The council announced it would be a 20% increase in ‘general rates’ which is not the total rates amount but the portion towards core services the council provides. Still, the councils wording and use of percentages and not dollar amounts will make it very easy for a person to assume their total rates bill will increase by 20% instead of actually only being a fraction of an increase of the total amount. God knows the executive gets paid eye watering amounts and they history of the council has been known to waste money through poor decision making.

    • Clarabelle says:

      Pie
      A few months ago you had a contributor leaking info from Council. Under McCabe there were FOUR positions at $480K. I was talking to a worker whose jaw hit the floor when he found out his boss, Matt Richardson, was on close to half a million dollars a year. Who would blame the frontline troops for becoming bitter?

      • The Magpie says:

        No one. And so should the ratepayers.

        Even if they were doing a exemplary job, this lot are not worth that sort of money. Frankly, no one in public service should be, with one or two rare exceptions.

        • Clarabelle says:

          Let’s not forget Jenny Hill’s 3 “advisors” amounting to another half a million dollars. So she was costing ratepyers not $250K but $750K. Hubris.

  31. Phil supporter says:

    in response to Ducks Nuts, 13/8 comment asking what Phil has achieved – there’s no reply button for some reason

    Phil’s greatest achievement was serving his country in Afghanistan, and almost being killed by an IED in the process.

    If DN would like to find out how that feels, I’m sure we can arrange some sort of painful explosion.

    • Bob Roberts says:

      As pointed out elsewhere, the reply button vanishes after a certain level of comments, regulars know this, even if the Pie doesn’t.

      Thompson’s service is admirable but that doesn’t mean he can just sit on his hands as an elected member of parliament.

      • The Magpie says:

        Last matter first: just what should Thompson have been doing in parliament that you lament as a lack of responsibility? He is in opposition now, you know, don’t you?

        And the first thing second: as The ‘Pie has pointed out, if the reply button has vanished, preface your comment with ‘In reply to ….’.

        BTW the reason The ‘Pie has no knowledge one way or the other about the reply button is because, so as to speak, he’s in here and you’re out there, I don’t see what you see.

        • The Watchee says:

          You poor bastard, you see all the comments in all their glory. Feel sorry for you moderating this crowd when ducks nuts, Elusive butterfly, guy and Troy Thompsons of this world fire off their deluded comments.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Oh FFS. Thats been an gone mate, can’t hold on to that forever. My grandad who was a POW never fucking raised that as a reason he should be respected and why he was a good bloke. And he certainly never hailed that as his greatest achievement.

      Now Phil is a politician he’s got to show us that he actually stands for something other than letter writing to local government politicians and far right dog whistles.

      • The Magpie says:

        The ‘Pie might be wrong (rare but known) but haven’t noticed Phil blowing his own trumpet on his service record, beyond a reasonable mention on his CV. It’s mainly far left wankers like yourself who broach the subject in a negative manner and give his record no credit.
        And if you feel Phil hasn’t been sticking up for Townsville from the opposition benches, you are simply a a hyperventilating pants wetter who won’t even say if he ever served himself.

        • Ducks Nuts says:

          Ah Magpie… Phils corflutes all have him with his service medals. You know.. a little reminder in case you forgot that Phil is a veteran.
          Maybe Phils corflutes could show his staffers who write his letters instead.

          • The Magpie says:

            You want to ban politicians displaying medals? Which they earned the right to wear the hard and dangerous way.

            You are a great disappointment Ducky, usually sensible but on this issue turning into a sad bitter Labor thumbsucker.

            BTW, did you serve?

      • The Watchee says:

        Ducks Nuts, you are an unhinged loonie lefty. Phil has done more for the community than you, you deranged antagonist. Are you sure that you’re not part of Troy Thompsons army?

        • Ducks Nuts says:

          Your logic is a bit off there Watchee. I gather you have trouble with directions with all that getting lefts and rights mixed up.

  32. Mexico Pete says:

    TCC should consider contracting the waste collection “service” out to the private sector to a company like Cleanaway or JJ Richards (as does the great majority of other Councils in Queensland).
    There’s obviously benefits to a contracted service otherwise other major Council’s would have their own fleet etc. Might be about time that a cost benefit analysis was carried out in respect to the Waste Department.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      TCC should just pay their workers reasonable wages. If the Burdekin Council can pay better wages than TCC what the fuck is going on at TCC?

      • The Magpie says:

        Agreed, but in the current climate of outrageous ambit claims, one man’s reasonable is another man’s outrage.

    • Dollar Dave says:

      Couldn’t agree more. The waste contract should be contracted out. You can really drive a hard bargain and screw the contractor down. Unlike TCC staff where you are limited to what is in an EA and all the requirements of sick leave, annual leave, bereavement leave, holiday leave, leave loading etc etc. Time to fam it out.

      • Ducks Nuts says:

        Dave, if you’ve ever seen a contract negotiated by TCC you’ll know why this won’t work. TCC purchasing and contract management couldn’t drive a hard bargain if you gave them the keys.

    • Mdog says:

      All fair and good, but, don’t forget that a private company will make you pay. At places like Melbourne, 100 bucks at the dump, for a Ute load. Pay more, for kerbside pick up. Private company, there to make money, just another side, be careful what you wish for.

      • The Magpie says:

        The simple question to that suggestion is whether it is actually cheaper to contract out? We don’t elect councillors and pay public servants to choose the path of least resistance to make their lives easier, they primary responsibility is ensure the best fiscal path is followed.

  33. Gobbler says:

    At least employing locally most of the money stays in the local economy to help local businesses. You’ll see less of that effect if you outsource to a national company.

    • The Magpie says:

      Not sure that makes sense … national companies have to have staff living in the community … often from the community to start with, like qualified former council staff. It’s not the sort of scenario of a FIFO operation.

    • Jeff, Condon says:

      Cleanaway empties our bins.

  34. Blue Bells says:

    I am all for a fair days pay for a fair days work, but a pay increase of 23% really makes a company question the employee’s value. Can they get the same job done elsewhere for cheaper? Is it worth contracting out? Are public servants signing their own dismissal?
    History tells us, council has already sent traffic control, building certification and vehicle maintenance to list a few out to contract. If they outprice themselves internally, then each group is the next on the scrapheap or the other option is to whack 20% rate rise on every ratepayer.
    23% payrise will force job losses.

    • The Magpie says:

      An idle thought: Letting wages fall behind can be a deliberate tactic as an end to other means … like an excuse for privatisation when the workers take legitimate and well founded action.

  35. Jeff, Condon says:

    TCC’s negotiations with the AWU are moving along. With all the tips now closed because workers weren’t collecting fees, ratepayers can’t take their bins to the tips. So now we can add a potential health risk to the issue.
    TCC have blundered into an ambush.

    Rather than negotiating towards a resolution, it seems both sides are going head to head with neither side prepared to make any concession.

    Does anyone know the identity of the chief TCC negotiator (headkicker)? Might be time to find a new one.

    • The Magpie says:

      Well, have they blundered into an ambush? You might have that exactly back to front and upside down, Jeff. Your analyse that the TCC negotiator(s) have trapped themselves is one dimensional and could actually be the opposite, that it is they who have led the unions into a dead end street.

      Because would it not be possible that the TCC team planned to let the unions create civic discomfort and a health hazard (a low one admittedly, but not a good look during the tourist season, in effect an eyesore unmissable to everyone) so they ultimately have a reason to sack the garbos and privatise waste collection?

      Richardson, Sewell and McCabe have all shown a capacity for arrogant club-footed attempts at guile – Strand parking metres, power delegation to the CEO – and to think they are ‘blundering’ about may be just what they want you to think. Could it be all part of their game plan, because, remember, the TCC are the side that decided to put this so openly detailed into the public arena.

      The unions may have miscalculated by trying to use the general uneasiness with the council translating into support for their wage calls. And this is a council executive that doesn’t give a fuck what the public think, they are all on a comfy sinecure, and will do what it takes to get their way.

      Be interesting to see what the councillors have to say on the matter this Wednesday.

      Time for the umpire to be called in.

      • Jeff, Condon says:

        ‘Pie, you may be right but this council has been on the nose (pun intended) for along time and nothing pissses off an Australian more than to inconvenienced.

        Taking the rubbish, garden cuttings to the tip and finding it closed will really piss them off.

        As you are aware, lots of people don’t read the Astonisher so will be unaware of the closures.

        The union can pick up a lot of kudos by relenting “in the public interest” and collect the few measly dollars.

        I find it difficult to believe that senior management in TCC can suddenly perform a reversal of type and become efficient.

        As you say, it will be interesting to see what the councillors will say. Mooney has already expressed his support for the workers and another said something to the effect that he would never stand in the way of a worker fighting for a pay rise.

        Time for arbitration.

  36. Ducks Nuts says:

    So in councils budget in the pretty little graphic that says “For every $100- where your utilities go”

    In 24/25 budget Resource Recovery was $12.24 per $100 of utilities fees
    In 25/26 budget Resource Recovery is $18.49 per $100 of utilities fees
    A $6.25 or 51% increase.

    Now I doubt the number of rateable properties has decreased. So the revenue for waste services has increased by at least $51%.

    Is this correct? What is this money being used for? Obviously not staff wages.

  37. Kid rock says:

    Is Crisafulli still in town this afternoon? Wonder if he will meet with Twonames? Hope his government jet is locked up tight on the tarmac so none of the local kiddy crims can’t steal it.

    • White Mouse says:

      The premier would have been sharing the jet with the Governor who is also in town in the role as Regimental Colonel of 31st Battalion RQR.

  38. Rotten Luck Willie says:

    And the fool left that Alaskan bar room igorant that he had achieved a great deal. He had embolden the murderous ex KGB spy.

    What is the year, 1936 relived.

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