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Sunday, November 9th, 2025   |   217 comments

The Townsville Council Is To Vote On A Visitor Tax For Magnetic Island, And It Will Apply To Day Trippers, Too.

That is just one recommendation in a report after a two year study  by the council and a bevy of (sigh) consultants.  There are plenty of tricky questions in this one, and The Magpie is just the bird to ask them. Not only how the money will be collected and spent, but what happened to the barrow load of dosh provided for the study in the first place.

The Mayoral mess has continued throughout the week,  without a shred of enlightenment. It is now clear that whoever you vote for, you’ll have to be giving someone the benefit of the doubt.  It’s hard to believe a single word any of these fuckers say so any attempt at a serious examination of this hack’s handicap is totally redundant.   The ‘Pie will restrict himself to a few observations … including one brief meteorite of lucidity from one candidate.

But just because the mayoral race is winding down (certainly not up) weep not, poll junkies, the Hinchinbrook by-election will have plenty of similar entertainment … it’s started already, with the LNP’s galoot getting the school cap with the propellor.

Townsville hospitality identity carks it, reviews mixed.

Move over, Monty Python … you will not believe the latest bit of fuckwittery from the DMR over the Mt Spec Road repairs to Paluma.  Calling Inspector Clouseau.

Plus our regular report on the American death spiral … but are they about to pull out of the dive? The ‘toonists tell the story.

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They’ve Sure Kept This One Quiet

And if you’re not  interested in island matters,  still read right through, this isn’t just a Magnetic Island story.

It’s all a bit murky at this stage,  and further details will no doubt emerge, but this what we know for sure.

A two year study (read consultants picnic)  led by waste management expert Ann Prince has just been completed last month. The study was funded with a $600,000 grant from the Barrier Reef Association to the Magnetic Island Community Development Association (MICDA), and a Magpie contact says the money went entirely on consultants, a couple of part time jobs and a couple of interim reports.  The final one has now been completed and will go before council. Read the MICDA overview of the project here.

Ms Prince appears to have a solid reputation in her field, The ‘Pie knows nothing about her, but he knows a hell of a lot about the way the TCC works with consultants.  So the contents of the final report will hardly be a surprise to anyone in Walker Street,  since Ms Prince has been in constant meetings on her FIFO consultancy mission over the past couple of years. So one wonders about the old truism that, with consultants, tell them what outcome you want and leave them to it.

The basic premise seems to be  that anyone who visits Maggie creates waste, and that shouldn’t be the burden of Maggie ratepayers or the council.

We’ll learn more about that in the near future, but try this for starters from the report.

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And that levy is going to have some councillors some Olympic standard buttock clenching when they find out this isn’t just an island matter concerning tourists, it indirectly involves their rate-paying constituents.

First things first, how would such a tax on day trippers and stay-overs be collected? The ‘Pie hasn’t been able to find any conjecture in the report (he hasn’t seen the whole report yet anyway) but the idea apparently is that it will be added on to ferry fares. The ‘Pie understands Sealink has already been involved in talks, and the seperate car ferry company will also have to be on board.  Sounds simple? Well, collecting the dough … $2 has been mentioned … itself will involve minimal cost, because there will have to be ID checks if you’re a Townsvillian just on a days outing. Then the tax is tabulated, passed back to the council and … wait for it … be handed out to Magnetic Island groups for various ‘environmental, net zero’ purposes!! That means an overview nightmare, typical of TCC bureaucracy and higher, all of whom keep claiming to be cutting down on red tape. And as one informed contact pointed out, the $2 figure could rise if they also include a Tourism Tax  for Infrastructure/Marketing mentioned in the MI Tourist Master Plan. And guess who is involved in that masterplan? Yup Townsville Enterprise, the good old Dudley Do  Nothings.

Currently,  the island sends 1677 tonnes of mixed waste by barge annually to mainland landfill, and the consultants estimate by implementing all sorts of household, business and public reforms,  waste can be reduced by 527 tonnes – equivalent to ’17 barge trips’ – and assist climate action.  But that still leaves over 1100 tonnes to be barged back to the Big Island, with that cost met by the TCC i.e the ratepayers.  The Nest’s correspondent on the island makes a very valid point when asking if it would not be more sensible if this money is to be collected (at $2, it is estimated at $800,000 yearly) was used to fund the barge operation.

And thus lift the burden of an island operation off the entire ratepayer base.

Early days yet, and this scheme is to be further fleshed out publicly, so there are two more questions – while sections of the report have been released in an up-beat favourable way for to Maggie island groups, when will the main report be released to the public?

And there’s one where you Nest readers can help – email mayoral candidates and ask them if they support a visitor tax on travellers to Magnetic Island? Or candidates,  you just get back to The Nest at email hidden; JavaScript is required

The Magpie’s view is that such a levy is not in itself an unreasonable idea, but experience will show that its implementation will pose challenges that may well not make it worthwhile, with much of it frittered away on public servants tasked with overview. and internal ructions within the various island groups.

Until the situation  gets too unwirldy and demands an overhaul … and consultants are called into again.

One Bright Moment In The Mayoral Murk

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Ploughing through the deja vu dross of the mayoral campaign this week,  the Magpie was somewhat jolted when he read some words that David Kippin had said.  The old bird almost didn’t read on, because he is continually annoyed with the dreary back-foot tactic of all candidates attacking others in the field, more often than not ignoring issues and going full frontal ad hominem.  But here is a quote that ALL candidates should take to heart.

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That last line is what every single Townsville voter has top of mind. It also a signal a return of some dignity, both to the office and the city generally.

Noble sentiments,  but the question remains whether The Kipper can overcome both his poor business track record and his emerging bombast where his confidence is spilling over into boasting – with a hint of bullying.  And remember, being a successful bank manager who by virtue of his position is unquestionably in the driver’s seat,  is the business  equivalent of painting by numbers. Not a position that readily promotes leadership through loyalty and respect.

But let’s have a look at a few other folks tilting for the possum fur.

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Joanne Keune, dressed by Steve Price.

It’s kinda mesmerising watching someone seeming to deliberately sabotage their own election campaign, but right now, The ‘Pie’s attention is firmly on Joanne Keune and what she will do next to alienate voters.  Joanne is well intentioned,  and passionately believes in progressive causes, absolutely no doubt about that, but in politics at any level,  being so and saying so  are two vastly different things.  The ‘Pie is surprised at the way she has gone full frontal on certain subjects, some of which have no place in this campaign.  Conviction in causes is all very well but that’s a luxury only available to those who first gain office. And unfortunately, many of her stances on certain matters are clearly opposed by some or all councillors … particularly kiddy crime where silence would’ve been her best option since there is bugger all the council can do in that arena.  And attacking the postal vote process  was also questionable tactics, although she has apparently uncovered some unsettling information from ECQ. The ‘Pie is trying to follow that up.

Her woke notion that bats rights trump human rights probably killed off any hope she had,  it demonstrated a tin ear towards the average denizen especially since those critters are often a health hazard. Doubly strange position to take, since she has been in constant contact the election savvy Jenny Hill, who has also been busy behind the scenes with Greaney. Shame really for such a live wire candidate,  despite some rabid comments here, many were saying good things about her personally to The ‘Pie.

Jo, maybe you should start thinking about a medium term campaign, there’s only two years to go before we do it all over again, take the time to put together a far more coherent and better funded campaign, it seems you came to this one far too late.  Shame, you’ve put in a helluva lot of sweat into it.

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Nick Dametto .. “slicker than a trollop’s slot’.

Nick Dametto just keeps on sliding on through this campaign, playing the safe brand of political campaigning, especially not biting too hard on barbs from other candidates – particularly Greaney, who he swats away casually like a fly that isn’t important enough to get worked up about.  He just keeps being told what to waffle on about, which is all bullshit but his handlers know everything he is told to promise is utter tripe.  They know no one cares much, all candidates are simply not believed one shred.
Nick has been described by one detractor as a meathead, a summation The ‘Pie is unwilling to argue about too strongly.  He’s the Premier’s boy on the block, and has been around politics long enough to overcome some obvious intellectual and vocal shortcomings. Seems he is prevailing in this contest because, to use that colourful 17th century  judgement, he’s slicker than a trollop’s slot.  Whether he can provide the ultimate satisfaction implied in that  metaphor,  we will only find if he gets to Walker Street. Personally, The ‘Pie doesn’t see him in the satisfaction market, those decisions will be made elsewhere if he becomes mayor.
An aside: one reader thought we might see Rocky the Flying  Squirrel in the possum fur.
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Then there’s the ineptly scheming Foodtrucks Greaney.
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AMG is a bit of a split personality, flittering here and there twittering and wittering away, making promises with all the shining insincerity of that disembodied woman who thanks you for shopping at Coles. Then next minute,  she imitating The Magpie, swooping in with ineffectual attacks on other candidates.  By its very nature, journalism loves a negative, it opens up the chance of adjectival overkill, so she has been getting some exposure in the Astonisher, but neither she or the paper seem to perceive the annoyed boredom with which voters greet this sort nitpicking nitwittery … especially from a woman who herself doesn’t even have a shot at costing out some of her vague promises.  Just as annoying to savvy voters is that, as acting mayor, she would turn up at the opening of an envelope for a photo op … although in most cases, she is completely irrelevant to the matter in hand.  The ‘Pie will be surprised if she even comes third.
All the others seem to be hanging around for the nuisance value … or in the case of Poulsen and Patel, not even hanging around.
Former Partner In Top Townsville Restaurant Dies 

As reported in The Nest yesterday morning.

News flash:
FORMER PARTNER IN TOP TOWNSVILLE RESTAURANT DIES.Graham Richardson, at one time co-owner of The Watermark has died in Sydney, aged 76. Along with his high profile in the dining industry, Richardson was also a former Senator, a notorious tax evader,  and a prominent commentator on political affairs in the media.

He always found time for family, friends and intimates when he visited Townsville, like deeply respected local businessman Rabieh Krayem and then iditor of The Daily Astonisher, Ben English.

He was famous for his saying ‘Whatever it takes’, but always denied that it was a reference to the cost of a meal at The Watermark.

And here’s a fun fact. Richo son is named Mathew, which makes him Matt Richardson. But still your beating hearts, it is not the billowing spinnaker we see striding the council halls. No relation.

Can’t Be Too Careful – Those Damn Kiddy Crims Will Pinch Anything

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It seems this is the latest policy of the DTMR, with their on again-off again clowning around with repairs to the Mt Spec Range Road to Paluma (damaged in last January’s dampness.) The sequence of false alarm closures of the permit holder-only road centres on the blasting of a particularly large boulder left in a dangerous spot. Twice Paluma residents have been told of four day complete closures to accommodate the blasting, only for both occasions to be called off at the last minute.

As of last Friday, , the Range road was closed off for the weekend, which led to an exodus of Paluma residents who didn’t want to be trapped there in case the TMR plans met with some disaster which closed the road for weeks … meaning no access to doctors, dentists , or food supplies. There is no word yet if the blasting crew remembered the dynamite and matches this time around, unlike the two previous cancellations.

But get this …  there is a report that The ROCK is being guarded for some mysterious reason by a single guard overnight. In normal circumstances, we’d all fall about with a good laugh and a round of ‘yeah, right’s., but, hey we’re dealing with the DTMR circus here. And its supposed to be true.

The very thought is interesting enough of a black clad no-neck with holstered gun keeping vigilant look-out on a CLOSED road at night so no one – and I mean NO ONE, buddy, right! – is going to interfere with our rock. But why?  If they thought someone was going to steal, or tamper with the damn thing,  why guard it, let the buggers do whatever. Maybe the brains trust at the DMR office was suddenly seized with the idea that Macca, Wozza and Jacko planned to sneak down and do their darnedest to  the rock themselves with some left-over gelly from the boys last fishing trip to the dam.

Months ago TMR were asked why not give the  the Laws of Nature & Gravity a nudge to enable the ROCK to join other fallen rocks in the creek bed below by simply heaving it over the side of the road.

Apparently , according to TMR, this very cheap and prompt solution is NOT permitted as “ there might be endangered species below”
eg Scrub Ticks (and cane toads ,which have eaten out most of the native creatures eggs and young,)

One sincerely hopes that the noise& big vibrations from excavators, concrete trucks, heavy machinery , powerful  rock drills and , eventually , the sound of exploding& splitting sacred  ROCK will not cause these ,as yet unidentified ,creatures to suffer hearing loss!

If so, TMR might have to attend the WET TROPICS Headmaster’s office for a dammed good thrashing!!!

This Is More A Matter Of Jail Fail

The ‘Pie intended to leave the Hinchinbrook hootenanny to its own devices until we get the mayoral crap out of the way, but it was suddenly clear that LNP candidate Wayde Chiesa was in sore need of The Magpie’s advice. And who would the old bird not to help when a dumbo is in need of a helpful word.

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Wayde, buddy, old mate, you say ‘if you breach bail, you should go to jail – no ifs, no buts, no maybe’.

Hmmm,  but maybe a small  ‘if‘ question  should be asked … what if there is no place for them to be slotted, since successive governments haven’t dared to risk the bad look of being the ones to build more jails. Because their laws proved inadequate. A lot of these offenders are out on bail in the first place because there is nowhere for them to be locked up in any acceptable manner.  No use saying cram ‘em in 20 to a cell,  reality suggests this is completely unacceptable in any sort of society,  not to mention an electoral death knell.  Crime victims saying they couldn’t care less how many are in a cell,  just lock them away, is understandable on an emotional level, but our elected members are supposed to think a little more deeply. So mate, you’d better change your tune swiftly and advise your boss that the real issue is more jails, and that’s what yer gunna campaign on, by gum, oh, my word.

Seems Dametto isn’t the only meathead spawned up Hinchinbrook way.

The mantra ‘adult crime gets adult time,’ is fair enough in itself,  but is one of the most shortsighted policies possible, if you can’t carry it through.  The old rule is never pass laws you can’t enforce. Sometimes, it is the right time to do the politically unpalatable, and this is definitely the time when the public mood is more than ever receptive to allocating funds for more jail beds.

Early book … Molachino looks pretty set, but with the quality of these candidates, who knows.

Seems The Poms Have A Similar Problem

The renowned Matt in the London Telegraph has it covered.

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Speaking Of Someone Who Deserve Jail Time

Andrew Mountbatten is now – as one newspaper headline had it – the banned old Duke of York, but it seems he has secured his place in the twisted history of the royal spawn.

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Amerika

Just One SNAP Of The Trump Fingers …

… and presto, today, 42 million Americans are going without food and daily essentials courtesy of the Orange Abomination’s (the OA) grave new world.  And that world is looking more ‘third’ than ‘first’. The loopy US statutes  – akin to our blocking of supply – have shut down all US government monetary supply, with the country being thrown into chaos as air traffic controllers for no pay so moonlight on other tiring jobs just to eat,  tens of thousands of government workers are locked out and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) has come to a sickening halt. And the root cause is that Trump didn’t get his way with plans to legislate for further breaks for his billionaire pals.  But the dire situation at the lower ends of society – many there because of Trump’s fascist policies – didn’t stop this unspeakable sleaze from throwing a lavish Halloween party at Mar-a-Lago. This was just the start of a bumper week for America’s cartoonists, which also included the stunning Democratic election victories in crucial state polls for top government posts, including the game-changing New York mayoral victory of Zohran Mamdani,. Then there was also the death of one of America’s greatest war criminals, former VP Dick Cheney, who thought up his Weapons of Mass Destruction as a weapon of mass distraction for his boss, George Bush. Only cost a million lives, ho hum.

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But there was one absolute standout toon this week, a perfect illustration of a hard truth that the bombastic Mobster president  hasn’t learnt – yet.

And so it goes.

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217 Comments

  1. Anti-Flog says:

    Hi Malcolm, that link to the environmental report on Maggie doesn’t appear to be working. Do you have a Dropbox link or somewhere else for us to click on?

  2. Diogenes says:

    “Doubly strange position to take, since she (Keune) has been in constant contact the election-savvy Jenny Hill, who has also been busy behind the scenes with Greaney.”

    Malcolm, I’m not attached to either campaign here, but your claim doesn’t survive even basic scrutiny.

    The media and messaging for Keune is being run by Jeneane Orzani, who has spent years publicly attacking Hill – obsessively so. She’s literally publishing a running commentary dedicated to that exact purpose. Link below:

    https://jeanineorzani.substack.com/p/the-web-within-the-team?fbclid=IwdGRjcAN8lbFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeR2IuF155gJMeWjZ1LW06P86vPevmR1DbwX9JBSJ8O9hAzNMaoeSU7w9TcVw_aem_G4X0AdYDIS58eEMbHrxfDA

    So the idea that Hill is somehow “behind the scenes” on Keune’s campaign is ridiculous.

    And Greaney’s recent public comments on the Haughton pipeline directly attack Hill claiming that she kept the blowout secret and that Greaney was only informed when she became acting mayor. If you think Jenny would be ok with that then you have lost your mind. Link below:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1ANypMuyo4/?mibextid=wwXIfr

    • The Magpie says:

      You have your opinions and The ‘Pie has his sources. But if Orzani is directing Keune’s campaign, she is the a political suicide bomber, blowing up her own credibility as well as Jo’s chances.

      • Ducks Nuts says:

        Magpie you’re delusional if you think Jenny Hill is some kind of political mastermind that these people are turning to for advice. You yourself have reported her clumsy bumbling attempts.

        And Orzani is delusional if she thinks Hill is behind a system of developer donations. She just inherited an already thriving system of corruption and took full advantage.

        • The Magpie says:

          You have read The ‘Pie wrong, Ducky … it is Jenny Hill who is delusional because SHE thinks she’s a political mastermind. Any advice she gives will zalways have J Hill in mind.

      • Kenny Kennett says:

        Jeff Jimmeson was said to be a strategic ploy years ago to allegedly assist Mullet. Is Keune a similar stooge for Food Trucks? Perhaps on a promise for a Labor (whoops I mean ‘Independent’) spot on a ticket for the next local, state, or Federal election….or perhaps a Management in Arts position? Who knows, this election sucks.

    • Bob says:

      Diogenes, surely Jenny Hill’s connection to the Haughton pipeline ended when she lost the mayoralty early in 2024? The revelations of a cost blowout by federal member Phil Thompson – who allegedly heard about it from an unidentified TCC ‘whistleblower’ – came in July 2024 during the mayoralty of Troy Thompson. Greaney would have had all sorts of reasons to get stuck into him although it’s unlikely he was in on any “secret” info about the Haughton pipeline.

  3. MM says:

    Joanne looks like an extra from Gilligan’s Island in that orange suit and hat.

  4. Bob Roberts says:

    Everyone has been remarking on what an improvement the paint job has been on the old Bullwinkles building, but I have to say the refresh of the Suthers Taylor building further along Flinders Street is even better.

  5. Jatzcrackers says:

    I’m thinking that Keune should seriously consider nominating as a TCC councillor in two years time, play the long game and learn how it all works internally from a that position.
    Perhaps after several terms if she survives, she could throw her hat in the ring for the mayoral role.
    Despite her obvious passion and desire to make a difference, shooting for the top job right now probably has proven to be of a biting off more than you can chew scenario.

  6. Super Cecil says:

    Good riddance to Cheney. Architect of the Iraq war which cost $2 trillion dollars, countless loss of lives, and is something that generations of Americans will continue to pay for. I hope there is a place called Hell because if there is, he is there right now. Let’s hope Bush junior also joins him soon.

  7. Prince Rollmop says:

    Good blog Pie, thanks for the time you put into it. Interesting about Keune seeking the assistance of Hill. Not really a great shock as Labor runs deep in Keune’s veins, plus Hill is a seasoned and experienced Labor acolyte so it’s a match made in heaven if it’s true. But all for nought as Keune won’t win the rights to the possum furs as I reckon Demented has this one in the bag with his smooth no fuss campaign. He is keeping his nose clean, biding time, not getting involved in any mud slinging. Well played.

    It’s a good thing there is no ‘fashions on the field’ category associated with this election campaign. Jacob in his St Vinnie’s clothing, Foodtrucks and Kippen wearing tents, and in your photo of Keune today she looks like she is wearing a kindergarten smock that has been splattered in pastel paints.

    A word of caution though for Nick. Once victorious he will have just 2 years at the helm. There will be many watching his performance in the lead up to the next council election. I personally think he will work well with McCabe and also his fellow councillors. However, Nick is opinionated and controlling so that may cause a few rifts. Ultimately the ratepayer will judge his performance. Enjoy wearing the furs Nick.

    • The Magpie says:

      One factor that hasn’t been in the chamber before is the general realisation with the Mullet gone, they are more free to express their real views. And if Dametto thiinks in a dictatorial position, if he wins, he’s in for a very rude shock …. the councillors, headed by Robinson, Batkovic and Dirou, enjoy the freer spirit of discussion now allowed in meetings. Any Katter inspired nonsense by from Slick Nick will be no easy call. Add to that that there will be a lot of jockeying for position over the next two years, with more than one councillor weighing their risk v reward chances at the top job … the risk being that next time, they are all out of a job and if they lose, they’ll stay that way, politically anyway.

  8. JPalumarite says:

    Thankyou for your piece on the Rock, except the picture is of the wrong rock. As a resident I didn’t realise they were guarding it and/or the ‘dynamite’ at night. If someone wants to push it over the edge, go ahead. Mother Nature has been doing it for years. We’ve been told we have to reapply for our road permits at the end of November????? No reason given as to why! We would like those ‘who know’ give us an estimate as to when this is supposed to be ‘finished’ as those who have businesses up here would like to know if we can go on a world tour while it happens. But unable to do that as there is no money to be had!! One wonders also how much this will cost and if DMTR will upgrade the road after the event as already there are ruts in the road due to machinery getting rid of the ROCK.

    at night

  9. TerryWho says:

    The logical solution if a Tourist Tax was introduced would be to fund the barge operation directly. However, it is far to sensible an idea and therefore will never get off the ground/ramp. Especially, if TEL is involved.

    Also, I wonder what % of the $2 would be required by the Ferry & Vehicle Companies to collect the said Tax.

  10. Blue Bells says:

    Will the Mayoral candidates start removing their visual pollution next Sunday?

  11. Troppo says:

    Dear Pie, The Mount Spec Road is in the Hinchinbrook electorate. What was the recent member for Hinchinbrrok doing to get the road repaired? And, why was he so unsuccessful in his attempts to resolve the issue? What does this say about his abilities to get things done by the State?

  12. Jatzcrackers says:

    RIP John Laws. Love him or hate him he was always out there expressing his views and controlling the airways. Would think that you definitely would have some stories about laws adventures Pie.

    • Prince Rollmop says:

      Yes, a true loss, the man with the golden tonsils. 70 years in the one career is outstanding and the milestone of 90 years of age is a magnificent et innings. There will likely never be another like him.

  13. Guy says:

    The main task for the new mayor will be hiding the crime, corruption and incompetence – as instructed by his Brisbane masters.

    Ive heard bugger all about the council debt from most candidates and more than a few have been responsible for it.

    The now complete council can press on to

    1 increase spending

    2 increase loan taking

    3 increasing rates, fees, registrations

    All at a time when state and federal governments are ruining the entire economy

    Ive wandered through ancient sites in the past and always wondered how ? why ? – Australia and its managers have completed my education. Civilisations have rarely been felled by natural disaster and almost solely by its “leaders” and bureaucracy.

    I think the rot sets in when individuals and teams gain control of the public purse and direct it straight into their bank accounts, friends, famiky and related corporations. From that point onwards its an inexorable march toward collapse.

  14. Island Voice says:

    Regarding the proposed tourist environmental tax, waste is big business.

    The levy for waste disposal will continue to rise, over here on the island there was an audit done by APC with 5 council workers going through our bins and leaving notices.
    The island is already very good when it comes to recycling.

    Of concern is what value to our community did this grant of nearly $600 k achieve?
    A couple of reports, several talkfests, with not a great percentage of the community involvement.
    There is not a battery, solar panel, new rubbish bin or even an energy efficient light bulb to be seen.

    If there is a tourism tax, the money will go on more report’s, maybe a couple of part time jobs and TEl trying to market the island as a sustainable destination.

  15. Molly9 says:

    Last week I commented that voters can lodge or get their voting papers at the ECQ office at Reid Park. All well and good, however, in the light of reports of dodgy voting since, I forgot to mention that at no point were our details collected as having voted. I was simply asked to remove the ballot papers from the postal envelopes, put the votes in the sealed box, and then dispose of the envelopes in the bin. At no point was our identity confirmed or asked for. Does this mean we now wait for a non-vote fine in the mail? How is the QEC going to track votes. Many we speak to still haven’t received their postal envelopes.
    This is the sloppiest excuse for a vote ever, the QEC should have told the TCC to hop out, and do this properly.

  16. Wheels within Wheels says:

    Magpie has a clear case of Mullet Derangement Syndrome

    • The Magpie says:

      Have you been paying attention over the past 15 years?

      Butv yes, The Magpie has constantly been pointing out how deranged she was/is. That’s what you mean, isn’t it?

  17. Mount Low Brow says:

    Mr Pie you rightly point out that Matt Richardson of Council infamy is of no relation to Graham… but he is proud of the fact he is the son of Federal Liberal MP for Tangney 1975-1977 Peter Richardson!

  18. Bob says:

    The Maggie Island ‘tourist tax’ reminds me of the 2015 Tony Abbott posturing:

    ” . . . what we can’t do is endlessly subsidise lifestyle choices”.

    If Townsville people expect waste management on suburbs like Maggie Island to be subsidised because the place is something special – a World Heritage Area – and requires extra council spending, then surely it’s not a big step to say that North Ward is also something special with its far-more-expensive-to-maintain, tourist-attracting Strand? And what better way to hit up visitors AND LOCALS for a $2 tax than a few parking meters? There’s even an already paid-for consultant’s report sitting on a shelf somewhere in TCC.

  19. Howard Johnson says:

    Forget the $2 MI tax for visitors as visitors would be better off and willing to pay a $50 head tax to get off the island!!! The place is overrated and populated with bogans and old whingers.

  20. Birdie num num says:

    I propose that with a newly implemented waste tax on Magnetic Island, the islands name should also change to whatever the Aboriginal version of “Magnetic Island” is. They did it with Fraser Island, changed it to K’gari. And perhaps Brisbane and the Gold Coast should also be renamed. Why change only some names?

    • The Magpie says:

      Why change any?

      • Bob says:

        One reason to accept a change of name might be to acknowledge that the state, or influential locals who lived in it, never had the legal right to ‘own’ or name significant portions of it. A good example is the island of Mer in the eastern Torres Strait. It was Queensland’s claim to ‘own’ that place and name the three islands the Murray Islands, that brought about the Mabo Native Title case.

        “The High Court granted Native Title to the Meriam people for Mer Island, and terra nullius was overturned by a majority of six to one judges. The case was not argued or won for the uniqueness of Murray Island culture within the Torres Strait as claimed by the plaintiffs. This ‘…was irrelevant in the Court’s reasoning in Mabo: the underlying common law principles applied Australia-wide, irrespective of factual variation in traditional life.’”

        https://www.dcceew.gov.au/sites/default/files/env/consultations/c3560a05-dc45-4deb-b723-63eeea204552/files/murray-island-group-assessment-history.pdf

        When the Wulgurukaba people settled their unsuccessful Native Title claim over the national park and some USL on Magnetic Island, the state and other parties (including local community groups) in the Tribunal, agreed to recognise them as the Traditional Owners of that land and as having the sole right to the naming of it – thus the Yunbenun National Park. ie. the State is legally obliged to honour its own agreements.

        • The Magpie says:

          But no one is morally obliged to accept this in terms of Magnetic Island, a name which in itself tells a rich tale of a seafaring error by courageous explorers who braved the unknown perils of unexplored oceans to widen mankind’s knowledge of itself. The fact that conquest for empire – or a distant penal colony – was a motivation of those who ordered these perilous expeditions in no way diminishes the bravery of a far more technically and scientifically advanced civilisation. But we are apparently required to don the woke black armband and deny our own historical markers to give way for some highly questionable claims of unprovable nomenclature made by a stone age culture that didn’t have a written language or reliable records of anything beyond the occasional rock drawing. We just have to take them at their word. You can if you like.

          • Bob says:

            “. . . we are apparently required to don the woke black armband and deny our own historical markers to give way for some highly questionable claims of unprovable nomenclature made by a stone age culture that didn’t have a written language or reliable records of anything beyond the occasional rock drawing.”

            That was pretty much the Joh Bjelke-Peterson, and many other so-called educated white boys position. Some still can’t believe they didn’t have a clue. And to think some sundry jumped-up gardener from Townsville could disprove the questionable claims of the entire Queensland government legal machine, in language and nomenclature that satisfied their lordships of the High Court is hard to believe. That’s why I included a link. It tells the story.

          • The Magpie says:

            Funny how no one ever questions a judge’s opinion. No matter how well informed, intelligent and well analysed it is, it is still … an opinion. And like the Voice To Parliament, this naming twaddle is widely opposed by we who look up towards the judicial ivory tower and sometimes wonder what fucking planet they’re on.

          • Percy says:

            But but don’t forget the mystical sea serpent which is proudly guarding over Magnetic Islands beaches, keeping the retirees safe.

        • Guy says:

          Thankfully we have judges making civilisational decisions that suit their own ideological needs rather than putting these matters to a democratic vote.

    • ABS says:

      That’s a good idea, I believe the traditional name is Yunbenun

      • The Magpie says:

        So predictable given your usual posturing.

        And before you read The Magpie’s other comment on this matter and have a meltdown, a serious questionnof inquiry: just how did the colonialists start to translate and write aboriginal word and place names? Is there a good article floating about on this?

        • Bob says:

          Try Inga Clendinnen’s Dancing with Strangers. She writes about the first colonialists in Sydney. Clendinnen spent a few years living in Horseshoe Bay. She quotes Milan Kundera:

          “Man proceeds in a fog. But when he looks back to judge people of the past, he sees no fog on their path. From his present, which was their far-away future, their path looks perfectly clear him, good visaibility all the way. Looking back he sees the path, he sees the people preceding, he sees their mistakes, but not the fog.

        • ABS says:

          My understanding is that word lists were being compiled from first settlement, I don’t know any good online articles on the subject.

          • Achilles says:

            Sorry ABS that can’t be true, the “alleged” first settlers never had, nor ever created any form of written language.

            Once they landed from Alpha Centauri (their claim not mine) they were too busy fighting, dreaming up colorful stories and probably eating each other.

            If things are so bad here why don’t they just bugger off back to their constellation?

          • ABS says:

            You’re as sharp as a marble, aren’t you, Achilles?

            The question was about colonialists and so was the answer.

      • Achilles says:

        Yep! GR8 idea that should reduce the number of annoying overseas and native Australian tourists. Cap’n Cook named it coz it was buggering up his compass.

        Ergo it has historical interests on the people who made Australia in just 200 years as opposed to Neolithic tribes who did nothing for an alleged 70,000 years (keeps going up, used to be about 35-40,000 years).

        This condescending patronage does nothing to “close the gap” in fact it widens it!

        • The Magpie says:

          He thought it was, but the rocks on the island are about as Magnetic as some of its denizens. (NOTE ‘some’).

          • Rocky says:

            Hey Magpie, come to Maggie, we can show you some positives, plenty of good people….the loud mouths are mostly whingers or recipients of wasted grants and have never had to do a decent days work….but that is typical of Australia today.
            What will it take to dismantle TEL ? Warts on the arse of progress.

            cheers from some one who loves Maggie, but NOT parasites.

    • Island Voice says:

      Birdie
      Your getting a bit ahead of yourself, there is no certainty this tax will even be introduced.
      As for the change of name it will not happen.
      I believe there is a petition with many thousands of signatures to have the name K’gari removed and Fraser Island restored.

  21. Mt Spastic says:

    The delay on the Mt Spec repairs are a fucking joke. TMR are the most useless cretins a government could ever produce. Slow, incompetent, disorganised, an overall clusterfuck. Maybe Demetto can speak to his mate Crisafulli and shove some blast gel up TMR’s ass. It is seriously a joke. Third world standards.

    • Bob says:

      Magpie, although you expressed a reluctance to buy into the “Hinchinbrook Hootenanny” at this early stage I think it is worth noting that there is an electoral boundary review going on and a distinct chance that at the next state election the northern suburbs of Townsville will be carved out of Hinchinbrook – providing Nick Dametto with a good reason to find a new job in Townsville where he obviously prefers to live.

      https://kattersaustralianparty.org.au/media-release/dametto-challenges-politically-motivated-electoral-boundary-changes/

      • The Magpie says:

        Longish bow but a reasonable conjecture worth a thought. That Dametto could see that far ahead takes a great leap of faith in the face of his demonstrated abilities.

        • Bob says:

          Looking at some of the submissions to the redistribution – especially from the ALP and LNP, I’d say the writing is on the wall for KAP next time around. All three Townsville state seats (not counting Burdekin) are underpopulated and need a boost, particularly Mundingburra. Both the ALP and LNP think those northern beaches suburbs should be carved out of Hinchinbrook and divvied up into Townsville and Thuringowa. The seat of Hill (no relation, held by KAP’s Knuth) could be abolished altogether with the bits shared around between Hinchinbrook and the Tablelands. Nick might have a clue.

          • The Magpie says:

            Be a first if he has … heil.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Nick likes Townsville. It has lots of muscle gyms, gun shops, and hot car places. There’s also a constant supply of young women to take out on boats. His motivations are simple.

  22. Dorfus says:

    Here is something where OUR council should be leading the rest of the State but it seems Brisbane, Gold Coast and LGAQ have the running..

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/08/bureau-of-meteorology-bom-removal-free-flood-warning-tool-has-potentially-deadly-consequences

    “Bureau of Meteorology says current system will be phased out as it no longer meets ‘cybersecurity, stability and resilience’ standards.

    “For nearly 30 years, the BoM has provided local governments, emergency services and water managers around the country with free access to Enviromon – a tool used to inform emergency alert systems which collects, displays and analyses data from rainfall and river level gauges for flood forecasting.

    “But the bureau will end ongoing support and maintenance of that service for external users by July and replace it with a US-developed software program called OneRain, which cannot be sublicensed – and so cannot be provided free to councils and other public bodies.

    “While rainfall and river level data can still be accessed via BoM’s website and organisations can register to receive updates, these would be sent through in 15-minute intervals, as opposed to the current five-minute intervals provided with Enviromon.”

  23. Ralph says:

    Pie, I went for the traditional Sunday drive with the Wife around the city yesterday and went to have a look at ARDO, well what greeted was at least 3 ambulance and 5 police vehicles and not a word in the Bulletin today, could it be no bad views of ARDO due to a advertising contract, nah that wouldn’t happen at the Bulletin would it.

    • The Magpie says:

      That’s a likely scenario, if the cops wered involved. Otherwise, might have just been some old geezer choked on his Foie Gras.

    • Blue Bells says:

      They don’t report on suicides and mental health outbursts either for good reason.

      • The Magpie says:

        Oh, yes they do. All the time. And BTW what ‘good reason’ are you imagining? There are some pretty solid rules that even this busted arse paper follows on those subjects, and there generally has to be a strong public interest component.

        But the old rule about if in doubt leave out may include a quiet call to the iditor from a Chris Morris flunky.

        • Blue Bells says:

          They stay away from reporting suicides. I have known quite a few in the last few years that weren’t reported by any level of media. Even funeral notices have removed links to beyond blue and the likes.

          • The Magpie says:

            Did you read the comment? Suicides and mental illness incidents are reported if there is a public interest outweighing privacy.

            Another clue is that oft heard phrase from the police ‘We do don’t believe there are any suspicious circumstances’ which is copper/reporter shorthand for suicide.

        • The Magpie says:

          And just to add to that in a timely fashion, without comment on the story itself, there is this in today’s paper. Note the box at the end of the story, which is code for one thing only.

  24. Motorist says:

    Just drove into town and home having been away motoring for 12 days. From comments in the Nest about election signs being visual pollution, wife and I decided we would count the number we saw. On the way out it was 12. This afternoon on the way in, none, nil, zip, diddley squat, dare I say, “fuck all.” Someone has been removing election signs? Perhaps the same signs are being moved from place to place cause the candidates are broke and they ain’t got that many?

  25. Long neck says:

    Pie,
    I note your reference to “unsettling information”… might this be referring to the number of voting forms being returned to sender?
    When we posted ours, the chap behind the counter told us there’s literally thousands (might be an exaggeration, but that’s what he said) being returned to sender because the ECQ has the wrong address for them.

    • The Magpie says:

      That bears looking into, but not sure I’d lay that at the ECQ’s door … there is a lot of churn in Townsville’s population, and people on the move would have the concerns of periodic elections well down their concerns. Wrong, but human nature.

      • Kenny Kennett says:

        And there lays the problem with ‘postal voting only’ elections. If it was a normal polling day, there would be discussions had to ascertain the person’s correct address, and as long as they can identify themselves at the poll, they would either get a chance to vote there, or be redirected to another polling place….that is if they really give a fuck.

        • Ducks Nuts says:

          It doesn’t solve the problem Kenny because the morons still have to go online to change their address and they don’t do it.

          Some of them believe that when they vote their address is magically changed for them. Its just a declaration.

          There a few more requirements than some election official changing your address because you say you’ve changed it, there is a matter of verification. And if verification occurred on polling day, imagine how long the fucking queue would be and how many complaints there would be.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Magpie is correct. Every election literally thousands of people turn up and they haven’t updated their details. Sometimes they claim they have, but I can guarantee most of them haven’t.

  26. Barfly says:

    Every week you read about more corruption in government.
    A former Centrelink worker reckoned Centrelink was Australia’s largest criminal organisation.
    I don’t agree. I believe the Australian people vote the top two in every four years.

  27. I’ve Been On The Island For 36 Years says:

    JUST LETTING YOU ALL KNOW! …………..so I’ll just leave it there.

    • Mundingbird says:

      Mum,50 years !

      Me,on and off for 50 years !

    • Six-seven says:

      36 years on the island hey. And we need to know this because….? Are you one of the island pests that whinges about palm fronds and road markings? 36 years is a long time to live in a sheltered workshop.

  28. Bob says:

    Oh dear, here we go again. Townsville Bulletin today:

    “The long-lamented Port Hinchinbrook development fiasco can again be the jewel in the crown for tourism in North Queensland, Premier David Crisafulli says”.

    It never was a jewel in any crown. The local yokel council, every state government from Joh to Goss and ever onward to eight years of Dametto, the Commonwealth through Ministers Richo and Faulkner, all have disgraced themselves and despoiled the GBR World Heritage Area with their secrecy, incompetence and chicanery. If Premier Crisafulli wants to buy into the quagmire he should do so with utter transparency otherwise he too will sink in the stinking mud.

    https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Environment_and_Communications/Completed_inquiries/1999-02/hinchinbrook/report/c02

  29. The Magpie says:

    Seems America has the reverse problem.
    What an interesting meeting of heads of state that would be.

  30. Toy Thompstain says:

    On one of Headknocks recent media interviews he claims that Team Crisafulli tapped Nick on the shoulder and gave him a heap of cash for the mayoral campaign. I hope that Crisafulli’s lawyers take notice of that. It would be great it Headknocks received a dose of his own medicine and had litigants lined up to sue him for defamation. Trouble nothing more than a serial pest and a form of herpes. As I said, I hope this fuckwit keeps sticking his foot in his mouth and the powers to be crush him.

    • The Magpie says:

      Unfortunately, like the legendary stopped clock, TwoNames is right on this one … The Magpie has written about many times in the past couple of months. Information from trusted and well placed sources.

      But just why TwoNames wants to make an issue of this is a mystery … there are other issues that have his balls poised over the blender.

      • Brian Venison says:

        Mr Thompson has been vindicated by the fact that Crisafulli has so eagerly pushed for Dametto to become mayor. The chickens are coming home to roost.

        • The Magpie says:

          Agreeing with what others, including The ‘Pie, have been saying for sometime, does not make an habitual liar, thief and cheat fit for office. There is NOTHING that can vindicate Thompson’s lack of honesty, decency, basic morality, personal integrity and honour.

        • BlackDahlia says:

          Agree! This is Dave’s chess piece for moving Nick into Phil Thompson Federal seat next election. It’s a well known fact.

          • The Magpie says:

            The ‘Pie let it go the first time, but when someone doubles down on inexplicable contradictory and ill informed horseshit a second time, an intervention is required. Because you are either just a sad little stirrer or fucking bonkers, BD.

            Please explain 1. what has Chrisafulli got to do with Federal candidate selection (you make it sound like he calls that shot, while in fact, he will be at the table only to voice an opinion)? 2. and can Your Genius tell us why a floundering party would risk de-selecting a strongly performing and popular sitting member in favour of a former Kattertonic of dubious talents?

            And ‘well known fact’? You really arde embarrassing yourself, you silly pipsqueak, best try Facebook. The only well known fact around here is your evident mental instability.

  31. The Magpie says:

    This fucking paper!! Seriously, they just accept nonsensical things from some and not from others, playing the field in such a pathetic way.

    They correctly hoe into the increasingly inept Keune for damning evasiveness regarding Labor connections, but refuse to ask obvious questions of Dametto and his inane parroting of an old mantra much waffled by others, including Greaney. And Hill. All with nary a clear inkling of what is needed.

    Slick Nick glides on through the campaign with oily words, with today’s meaningless clap trap something we’ve heard from others for years.

    But again, The Astonisher fails us, content to publish whatever meaningless crap plops into the inbox, and still declining to ask a question they should’ve asked years ago. i.e. what exactly does this parroted mantra actually mean?

    FFS, short of putting the fucking stadium where the police station currently is, where else could it be better placed to connect with the CBD? And as it is, it is ideally situated as just a pleasant 10 minute riverside stroll from Palmer Street or the Victoria Bridge into the … ta da, CB fucking D!! In fact, by accident or design, the Total Tools playpen could not be in a better place to ‘link.’

    So what does Slick Nick think he can improve about that? We’ll never know, at least not from the sleepy, dozy and dopey mob at the Astonisher.

    And as for the Strand ‘disconnect’ from the CBD, it is evident to The ‘Pie, one is not dependent on the other in any way, their is no obvious symbiosis between the two.

    The CBD is centred on the Via Vomitorium nightlife precinct, much infested by the chlamydia crowd and roofie-dropping rats. Booze hounds on the make aren’t interested in the Strand except as somewhere to go to vomit in the early hours.

    The actual answer about more attractive access between the two areas is pretty simple, it has always been known, and has nothing to do with the council. The missing components are, and have been for years, the bedevilled private-developer Hive project, which is located as the vital central link, and is opposite the federal and state government-funded (sort of) new Aquarium. Both of which, to repeat for your info, Slicko, has SFA to do with the the council.

    So far, Dametto hasn’t had an original, workable or costed idea in his meathead, and he will be Brisbane’s boy in Walker Street, so maybe the paper is inadvertently right, he isn’t the one to ask what lies in store for us.

    Which raises an interesting thought: Dametto, almost certain now to be our putative mayor, may achieve an interesting double for The Kid … because with this puppet in place, Premier David Crisafulli will be the marionette master of the job many of us always wished he had taken instead of state … he will now be our ghosted mayor.

    • Charlie Wulguru says:

      The very first sentence…. That’s exactly what you do.

      • The Magpie says:

        Yes, correct, but the Nest is a private blog informed by a network of trusted sources and allows comments on all manner of matters (well, mostly). Comments are rarely if ever edited.

        The Nest is not an established, for profit, community news platform owned by a far right wing international corporation which should operate on certain principles of balance – in fact, that balance is actually protected by law when it comes to federal and state elections. And as TwoNames threatens emptily, is open to civil challenge in the courts.

        • Perc Tucker says:

          And the Nest is inclusive and accepting. People like Not the ECQ, Steve from Belgian Gardens, the angry ranting Ducks Nuts, Sergeant Gunny Highway and Barry are welcome to make comments on things great and small.

        • Kenny Kennett says:

          I’ve brought up a number of instances where Ms Keune appears to be either forgetful or deliberately bending the truth. I never said she was a Labor member but I’m glad it’s come out. Perhaps we should’ve asked all of the candidates if they were members of a political party from the beginning. And yes it does have baring on how they will lead the city if elected. It makes more sense now about her alleged meetings with the Mullet. Don’t trust Keune.

          • The Magpie says:

            The ‘Pie doesn’t trust a single one of them … or any politician anywhere for that matter. Hear everything, believe nothing, until done or proven.

          • Big Mac says:

            When exactly is Keune supposed to have omitted being Labor? It’s on her nomination form?

          • Maggie says:

            All people have to do is took at Keunes nomination form to know she is a member of the ALP. No big secret at all. She has said is an indepedent, the party hasnt endorsed her. Does anyone believe Dametto has left his Katter values behind just because he left the party, seems like this all just Bullshit

          • Guy says:

            Ive got a funny feeling you get asked if you are the member of a political party when you fill out the paperwork when running as a candidate.

            If keune was a member of a political party she would have said so on her paperwork – right ?

    • Bob says:

      Magpie, it’s fascinating how Dametto is being given a dream run even though he has a shocking CV. He has used his deputy leadership of KAP to slap the Katters on the way out the door. He waltzes into Townsville pretending to be an ‘independent’ even as he makes cameo re-appearances in Cardwell with the LNP premier as if he still has a contribution to make in the Hinchinbrook Harbour fiasco. Which he probably does have because that shocking disgrace is a pure and simple National Party cock-up. Total white shoe brigade disaster and the NP part of LNP has finally found a man to nail Crisafulli into the corner. The NP troglodytes will sit the nice handsome premier in the playroom kissing babies and waving Olympic dollars around while they slash and burn, dredging the Reef to death, exporting the coalfields to India and China for free, and handing over half the state to mining multinationals in return for what? Fuckall! Oh and never get between a National and a big boat marina. You’ll get carbonated.

      • Kenny Kennett says:

        Don’t forget, Bob, that it was Pluckerfuck that got us into the Olympics mess. The LNP aren’t stupid enough to have taken on such a huge gamble. They just inherited a mess that Labor created.

        • Jatzcrackers says:

          100% KK, I lost a bet that the LNP Government under Chrisafulli would do a Victoria Premier job and bush the 2032 Olympics within 90 days of winning the State election.
          While the 14 day Olympic event is a huge winner for worlds athletes and adoring sports fans who are considered short term tourists, I’m still not convinced that it will be a big long term winner for the government and the money being now spent on Brisbanes infrastructure is massive.
          The big winners are those who purchased real estate in the SE corner of Qld particular as they benefit in the long term around where the State government is now spending big time.
          The Olympics are not a profit making venture and typically Labor/Puddleduck was happy to big note herself and then disappeared.

        • Big Mac says:

          Kenny, the LNP backed the Olympics bid at every stage. Graham Quirk was behind the whole thing.

      • Steve Jones says:

        Nick is the city’s favourite for one reason, his relationship with David Crisafulli. He has turned the corner, flipped from KAP to LNP, and by doing so he will receive plenty of funding for Townsville. He is not the sharpest tool in the shed, and short in stature, he is present, and that’s all Crisafulli needs, someone who will do as he asks. This is all about state strategy.

        I wonder though, will he be held to the same account as the previous mayor?

        Lots of promises, let’s see how the voting in the chamber goes.

        • The Magpie says:

          Nick may fancy that he looks like Jean-Claude Van Damme, known as the Muscles From Brussels, but is in danger of being dubbed the Turkey from Townsville if he can’t live up to his lavish promises by at least putting them before the council for a vote (with most likely to be immediately shot down quicker than a lying ex-mayor).

          But your comment raises a couple of other points.Not sure of your logic about his turn-coating will ‘receive plenty of funding for Townsville’. That looks an unlikely assessment if we look the negligible benefit we have gained by flipping all three local Labor-held seats over to the LNP. The principle thing we got out of that was an expensive year of political cowardice that has possibly irreparably damaged the city’s reputation.

          In reference to being held to the same account, that doesn’t make any sense. What has Dametto done that can come anywhere near the deceit, dishonesty, clandesine agenda, bitter revenge and greed of Thompson? Dametto will be no more that your average garden variety political grifter, who will be just one vote out of 11 in the chamber. We have to get over the idea that whoever is elected (it will be Dametto, but let’s pretend) will be without a team and virtually none of the candidates (possible exception of Kippin) has the skills to lead by persuasion, negotiation and common sense.

          Well, at least the lack of a team negates the chance of another dictatorial regime of fiscal incompetence and backroom deals. Dametto will never have that sort of clout with the present line-up, nor will he have the ability or guts to withstand on the ever-present danger of a further power grab by the bureaucracy. Greaney and Jacob will have no hope of creating much mayhem behind the scenes or forming a voting block .. Foodtrucks will be back to holding Price’s hand under the table as he dozes through meetings, and Jacob will be left to daydream about proposing a half million dollar exhibition of Savile Row suits.

        • Clarabelle says:

          Dametto’s not really that short. He’d look a lot taller if he stood with his legs closer together. A picture in today’s bulletin makes him look like a tripod.

          • The Magpie says:

            Oh dear, is his what happens in the flushes of late stages of ‘lady changeover’?

            Tripods have three legs, Cow Bell? Where’s Nick’s third? Having a little fantasy, are we?

            Here’s The Magpie looking for the third leg of his tripod.

            (Yes, yes, we know he’s got no balls, don’t bother.)

          • Clarabelle says:

            You got it, Pie.

  32. Prince Rollmop says:

    The human Hindenburg David Kippin has claimed that Nick Demented’s campaign promises are financially irresponsible and far from reality. Really? All this from a buffet gorging businessman who couldn’t keep TEL on track and was punted as a result. Tsk tsk David, time to head back to Townsville Shopping Centre’s food court for another round..

    In the past few days Kippin, Foodtrucks and Crowanne Keune have bagged out other candidates rather than provide us with robust policies or ideas on how to correct TCC’s financials position or provide us with a half decent plan for the future. Very dreary. Much dross.

  33. Blue Bells says:

    On a bright note, the Mt. Spec rock has been blasted, then removed by machinery in fragments of its former glory.

  34. Kenny Kennett says:

    Well well, Scrotum neck Albanese has announced that a statue of Gough Whitlam will be erected in Canberra. What the fuck?
    The weak prick is throwing taxpayer money at a statue of a previous Prime Minister who spent less than three years in charge. Sure, it was a dismissal for the ages but lawful, deserved, and all Labor’s fault. And he was ultimately not even popular as his party lost the next double dissolution election by a landslide. Ha, you need to be careful who you trust, Gough. If Albo gets his way, may the birds shit all over him.

    • Achilles says:

      So very true KK;
      Albo’s shown his true colors, commie blood red of the loony left fringe, at least it’s now in the open.

      Main problem is that neither Major party has an electable leader let alone a robust team, even in the wings.

      • OED says:

        You won’t be able to gin up a red scare against the milquetoast Albo. And if you genuinely believe what you posted I think you should have a Bex and a lie down.

      • Big Mac says:

        This is silly. What did Albanese say that isn’t a fairly mainstream reading of history?

  35. Ben Rumson says:

    Gough Whitlam is about to be made a saint with his own statue. FFS
    Let it be remembered that so desperate for funds he stole the Defence Force Retirement and Death Benifit Fund (DFRDB) funds, a fund contributed to by serving members of the defence force to fund retirement.
    Gough’s attitude was, stiff shit, deal with consolidated revenue.

    Well I remember the news of the sacking. All of us in the transport yard cheered

    • Painter and Docker says:

      Fuck Gough and any of his followers. He was a shit PM and an arrogant and conceited arsewipe. These fucking politicians really think they are special don’t they? FFS, a statue, like some kind of Demi-god. This is seriously flawed and Albanese is an absolute dick for announcing this. The only good thing about Gough is that he got sacked. Legends of equally useless politicians have followed in his footsteps but remain, or have remained, untouchable when they too should’ve been sacked.

    • Guy says:

      Theres a common accusation about Gough Whitlam that i continually see on various “conspiracy ” presentations.

      And its a bad one

      • OED says:

        No surprise that resident cooker Guy is following the conspiracy sites.

        • Not Pete Newey says:

          Guy has been living in fear of fluoride and chemtrails for many years. He also has an aversion to the 5G network and he suspects that drones have been looking for his bushland bunker. He has a policy that if he is ever elected, all councillors must wear tinfoil hats whilst in the chamber.

    • OED says:

      Did the entitlements change or just the source of funding? If the latter, no big deal.

    • Jeff, Condon says:

      None of us serving members have ever forgotten the stealing of our DFRB by Goofer and his fellow desperadoes.

      Palaszcuk did the same, raiding the QPS super fund (twice), promising to repay it.

      It’s a Labor party mindset, everybody’s else’s money is free for them to plunder.

  36. Toy Thompstain says:

    Foodtrucks has come out and said that if elected Mayor she will commission an audit into Townsville’s traffic system. From memory she has been a councillor since 2016. Why is it only now that she will commission an audit? She could’ve encouraged her mate the Mullet to do this years ago. Another feeble attempt to sound proactive. Annie, go and tuck into another jelly donut.

  37. annie mcmahon says:

    Just wondering how it is that Dametto still has has his state MP website operating and he is still posting things on it. Hasnt he resigned ??

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      I think he just likes having a website that says he’s a member. Even has a photo of a blue member. Bit unsightly really

  38. Achilles says:

    Just watched a doco on the ousting of Whitlam, great to see that there is/was only the one (and only) Australian flag behind his desk.

    Can anyone recall when and who allowed this 3 flags nonsense becoming official; indeed is it official?

  39. Ben Hampton says:

    If Ms Greaney publicly denied knowledge of serious project failures after having been briefed, it may constitute:
    Misleading or deceptive conduct in connection with an election under s 183(1) of the Local Government Electoral Act 2011; or
    Misleading statements to the public that undermine informed voter decision-making, which can be referred to the Electoral Commission of Queensland or the Office of the Independent Assessor
    Looks like she’s in a spot of bother, speaking with Kurt, they were all informed how bad Haughton was in workshops middle of last year.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Be careful of listening to Kurt. Kurt would throw his own children under a bus if he thought that would give him an advantage. Not that he’s probably wrong. But look for what he’s gaining here.

  40. Toy Thompstain says:

    I’ve watched some video clips and looked at some pictures that are being posted on the Facebook page ‘Townsvillians blocked by Troy Thompson’ (a really great site). Twonames really doesn’t look well. In one video he has a bleeding cut to the side of his forehead, his eyes look glazed and his continuous frown is horrible, he really doesn’t look mentally or physically well.

    Only a couple of days to go Townsville. Please make sure that you DO NOT vote for this grifting, letter writing, mentally unhinged idiot.

  41. Jeff, Condon says:

    Bob, 10/11, comments on legality of occupation of QLD/Australia.
    At the time of Cook’s and other explorer’s expeditions, “Terra Nullius” was accepted as international law. In a nutshell, if explorers did not find villages (European style), or tilled fields, the land was deemed unoccupied and they could claim it for their countries. They had little else to use at the time to make judgement.

    Bob, whether you like it or not, it was a legal claim AT THAT TIME.

    Since then, we have learnt sociology and have understood Terra Nullius was philosophically wrong.

    At the time of claiming our country for England, you could be hung for stealing a pig. Now, you can bash and rape women and be unlucky to get more than a couple of years in the can. Things change, but not in every way.

    If you committed a crime 20 years and were eventually apprehended, you would be judged and sentenced, based on the law of 20 years ago

    Finally, Bob, if you are so overwhelmed with guilt about illegally occupying land owned by the original tenants, pack you bags and walk away, back to the country of your ancestors and try claiming back land, there

    • Jeff, Condon says:

      Bob, my profound apologies. Reading your earlier posts, I erroneously misinterpreted your earlier posts as being of the woke/invasion group.

      Subsequent posts by you indicate otherwise.

    • The Magpie says:

      If you’re last whimsical line were in operation, 96% of Australians would do exactly that … leaving the 3% ‘owners’ and the 1% hanky wringers. Like you.

      Solve your housing problems, eh, Jeff?

      • Jeff, Condon says:

        What!!!. So, you lot believe in Invasion Day, as opposed to Australia Day, deride Anzac Day as well as Remembrance Day. I gotta say I’m surprised.

        I guess you were all part of the 40% of fools who voted Yes for the Voice.

        • The Magpie says:

          That comments is given as a reply to The Magpie. Not sure where its meant to be, but it sure as hell ain’t the old bird.

  42. Barbarra says:

    So does anyone know if the Chief Legal Officer resigned or was sacked and exactly when did he leave.
    I have been contributing to his salary by way of rates so am interested to know!

  43. Kenny Kennett says:

    Ms Keune is not making any friends at the electoral commission having finished her latest post with: “what a sham of an election”.
    But confident she is with her claim to have the backing of the younger lot in another post: “ If anyone out there has a $500 donation please for a radio campaign – I know the youth vote is mine! Majority of people have not vited ! I listen to and connect with young people on their issues. Always have – mainly because I feel 25 still ! Thanks guys love your support !”
    I would’ve thought that referring to ‘youth’ is not appropriate for those who are now of age. Those who are able to vote, drink, smoke etc wouldn’t really be happy being referred to as ‘youth’. But each to their own. You know young people, eh Ms Keune?
    Thank God, she didn’t get number one on the ballot paper. Although ‘Donkey vote’ would have been apt.

    • The Magpie says:

      The self immolation of Joanne Keune continues be about the only spark of fire in this pedestrian and over-hyped campaign of also-rans.

      Ms Keune has not so much as burnt her bridges as used small nuclear devices to vaporise them … her latest lesson in the downside of unintended consequences of stupid ideas is this.

      ‘Chinese dude’? This is an ageing out-of-touch dimbo’s idea of engaging the ‘yoof vote’?

      This ispur of the moment (and since deleted) FB post was so wrong on so many levels it defies serious comment, not that that has deterred social media, which has lit up brighter than a drunk’s eyes in a distillery.

      Suffice to say, she is cactus.

      But the News Ltd story raises a different question. Why pixilate the tourists face if he’s Chinese or Asian? To the average local, they all look the same anyway.

      • ABS says:

        And I was worried that we wouldn’t have a joke candidate after Guy chose to sit this one out.

      • C. Howett Fields says:

        I may be repeating what others have said on social media, but in case not, the test I always apply to situations like this is, ‘what if it had happened the other way around’? Two scenarios occur:

        1. What if it had been a female tourist, happened upon by one of the MALE mayoral candidates, and prevailed upon to do their sign-waving bidding, in exchange for a ride back to the boat (especially if said candidate then crowed about it online)? Ructions!

        2. What if Ms Keune had found herself in a similar situation on a cruise to China, finding herself far from the terminal, unable to speak the language, utterly at the mercy of ordinary-citizen strangers, and was asked to do what she asked of this hapless tourist?

        If that had been me, I’m certain that I wouldn’t have “loved it” – in fact, I would have been borderline terrified until I was safely under sail, steaming well away from Townsville.

        Genius, Joanne.

        She really needs to pull the pin. I’m afraid politics is not your strong suit, Ms Keune.

        • The Magpie says:

          If anyone in your hypothetical was silly enough to wave around signs in China (in Chinese), they deserve what they’d get … probably minimum 10 years.

        • Alahazbin says:

          As Ms Keune said. “Get over it”

        • Ni Hao says:

          We were in Shanghai once, trying to get back from the Bund to our hotel, we ended up down a back alley and had a young Chinese gentleman come up to us waving with his phone and through a translation app, not google, ask if we were ok – we asked how to get to our hotel and he immediately showed us the way.

          At no point were we asked to carry any signs.

    • ABS says:

      For the record, the donkey vote isn’t really a thing, it might contribute a fraction of a percent to the tally but has never swung an election result.

    • Outlander says:

      Kenny, drink and smoke? What about today’s youth who also love to root and smoke meth. C’mon mate, please include all types of people.

  44. Rotten Luck Willie says:

    ABC radio midday news, 40% of votes already returned to the ECQ and ThreeNames (who else) claimimg voter fraud. The news report ended with, “there is no evidence of voter fraud.”

  45. Percy says:

    Great news, the federal LNP have ditched net zero. You fucking beauty!! All we need now is to vote out the communist Albo next election and stop our country from going broke and woke. Best thing the LNP have done since potato head got voted out.

    • Bob Roberts says:

      There aren’t enough anti-net-zero morons to vote Labor out. This is an exercise in shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic (stopping voters from switching to One Nation).

      • ABS says:

        Partly – but also it’s an internal issue in the Coalition. Their voters are uneducated and elderly, and their base even more so. To get ahead in the Coaltition you need to appeal to the Sky After Dark set.

    • Prince Rollmop says:

      Net Zero is nothing more than a fraud and a rort. It’s the byproduct of the mad ramblings of some UN think tank that has convinced the world that we are all doomed and need to take drastic action. A bit like the COVID rort that enriched big pharma and has set the world back by years. Energy costs have ballooned and it’s the average person, the poorly paid, the pensioners, battlers and the 99% of the population who are suffering now.

      The politicians and the rich couldn’t give a shit if their power bills tripled as they can afford it. Water off a ducks back. Take an extra $100 per quarter out of a pensioners pocket, or a parent caring for a disabled child, and it becomes end game.

      Albanese and Bowen, both career bureaucrats who can’t see beyond their Canberra offices, are the most dangerous men in Australia.

      • ABS says:

        The science of global warming is real, and the only way to stop it is to achieve a balance between carbon emissions and absorption, that is, “net zero”.

        Energy costs have ballooned because of fossil fuels, so it’s ideal that the solution to global warming is investing in the cheapest form of energy.

        The coalition sought to exploit global warming denialist hicks for votes, but now find themselves dancing to their tune, unable to develop a coherent energy policy.

        • Jeff, Condon says:

          Energy costs have risen because of of a federal minister has chosen to continue along his path of bungled ministries.

          It boggles the mind that that a government would voluntarily send its country into penury.

          • ABS says:

            No, it’s definitely fossil fuels. If the Coalition hadn’t delayed the transition for a decade, we wouldn’t have been exposed so much to spiking coal and gas prices.

        • Sussan says:

          No, no, no ABS, or is it Steve from Belgian Gardens, it’s not “global warming”, it’s “climate change”, because the left want to tax us more when it gets cold too!

          Keep up with current scam.

          • ABS says:

            That’s a spot-on impression of something a moron would say, under the impression that they’ve made a clever point. The climate is changing because the globe is warming. It’s talking about the same thing.

      • Kenny Kennett says:

        Men??

      • Ducks Nuts says:

        Rollmop appears to have been reading the sov cit conspiracy theory handbook.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Federal LNP appear to be aiming for a new goal of net zero seats. With an aging voter base and regressive policies they are doing themselves out of a future.

  46. Rotten Luck Willie says:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2025-11-13/what-is-fluoride-and-why-is-it-in-water/105944202

    This easy to read, easy to understand article is submitted for the benefit of the ignoramus Troy ThreeNames Thompson.

    The weakness here is that he has a mind like a rusty steel trap. Slammed shut and incapable of being opened. A common feature of the MyPlace Morons on various local councils throughout the land.

  47. Bob says:

    First they give and then they take away:

    Townsville Bulletin today: “Townsville one step closer to becoming green fuel hub. A landmark agreement between Port of Townsville and Jet Zero could transform the city into Australia’s first sustainable aviation fuel gateway.”

    September 2025. KAP says “Nick Dametto’s track record speaks for itself, and his leadership in Townsville will be vital as the region faces pivotal decisions on projects like the future of the Copper Refinery, CopperString, Lansdown, and Jet Zero.”

    October 2025. Dametto resigns from KAP.
    October 2025. Flailing copper refinery receives $600m government prop-up funding.
    October 2025. CopperString’s funding has been reduced and the project scaled back after a government review identified $2.1 billion in savings.

    No mention of Lansdown, Paluma Road or Hinchinbrook Harbour.

    • Jeff, Condon says:

      The Astonisher’s burst just tells us that Jetzero and the Port Authority have agreed talk about developing a feasibility concept. Feasibility study into whether it’s worthwhile conducting a feasibility study.

      A good way to pocket grants without actually doing anything.

      People say I’m a pessimist. That’s what unabashed optimists call realists.

      • The Magpie says:

        The ‘Pie has been saying almost those exact words about the rort of ‘pre-feasibility studies’.

        The ‘Pie when he was doiung a contact stint at tGBRMPA many years ago … his first foray in Planey Public Service …. was astounded and tickled when he was summoned to a meeting to decide whether to have a meeting about a certainn issue.

        • Bob says:

          Another day, another dream shattered:

          “A $240m CBD revival plan with one major catch. Property Council research reveals not one of five proposed Townsville CBD developments is commercially viable”.

          So who speaks for CBD businesses? Is it the Chamber of Commerce from its Council-sponsored offices in Flinders Street. Is it Townsville Enterprise from its Council-sponsored offices near the ferry terminal. Is it any one of several mayoral candidates who have big plans to Council-sponsor damn near anything that moves in the CBD? Or are they all wasting our breath for us? Should we just find a lost tourist to wave a white flag of resignation for the CBD because none of the usual suspects seems to have a clue.

          • Steve Jones says:

            The council has incentivised CBD building owners, they have paid security around businesses, and the chamber of commerce has set up a fancy new ‘uptown’ marketing business, led by no other than Craig Stack. correct me if I am wrong, Craig sponsored something on the Strand for the Mullet back a few years ago too. Something is very fishy with the business community and council, this report is aa subtle push to the Crisafulli people to do something, Townsville City council can’t, if they do the outer regions will have their heads. The city is dead, invite investment in, remove red tape, let them build up, and let the corporate world build it, TCC do not give our money to more big business, and CBD building owners.

          • The Magpie says:

            That’s a very confused comment Steve have no idea what your driving at – but let it stand.

            The ‘Pie will have a closer look at the question of council red tape and that utter bullshit story featured in today’s Astonisher, where a vested interest is given free run with a begging bowl or business torattle at the government. Just one big flaw in that load of codswallop. You’ll never guess what it is?

          • Big Mac says:

            In the article one of the factors they considered was height limits. We should remove height limits across the city in general instead of imposing arbitrary restrictions. If someone wants to build the only consideration should be if it’s structurally sound.

        • Grumpy says:

          ‘Pie – when I was in the Public Service, I was astounded at how many otiose meetings I was forced to attend. I mentioned this to the Office Manager who said “Perhaps you are right – I’ll call a meeting to discuss.” And he did.

  48. Jeff, Condon says:

    It may be my imagination, but Casanova Bowen seems to have developed a speech disorder. Everything he says seems slurred.

    Has he had a mini-stroke (medical announcement surely), or a few too many strokes while alone in Canberra?

    • Bullshit says:

      I think Bowen isn’t the one who’s had a stroke. Maybe keep your sexual fantasies to the bedroom, Jeff.

    • Charlie Wulguru says:

      Jeff….Who was it that deposited you into Townsville to burden us? Was it the Army or the Air Force? Going by the address I would say it was the Army.

      • Jatzcrackers says:

        Charlie Wulguru, dumb comment referring to Australian Defence Personnel in that manner. Try and improve your perspective and show some appreciation for those men and women who stand guard and protect the freedom you get to enjoy.

  49. Bob says:

    Magpie, are you privy to any information about when we will hear any election results from the QEC? It’s probably unlikely that anything will be revealed on Saturday night in the fashion of other elections because I suppose they won’t even begin opening envelopes until after 6pm or whatever – although maybe they are already opening envelopes as they come in and are just piling up ballot papers waiting to start sorting and counting them.
    Plus, anyone prepared to predict the outcome? Say, top three. I’ll go first. Greaney, Dametto, Keune.

    • The Magpie says:

      You are clearly no Bob the Bookie, with that prediction.

      But the answer to your question is no, no info, but a bit to consider there. Apart from the mayoral hoopla and conjecture, there is the sad fact that election itself that has become and issue, and the ECQ may find itself in a bit of a bind. All votes have to have been sent by 6pm Nov 15 and be received by the 25th, and if unsupported comments here and elsewhere suggest that the PVO has been the disastrous fucktangle predicted, then the ECQ will be in no hurry to put out preliminary results of primary votes. Early figures could be massively misleading and lead to all sorts of silliness on social media and in the paper. Then there’s the optional preferential voting stupidity to fed into the counting, so wouldn’t want to be left hanging by the left one waiting for any definitive indication.

      • Kenny Kennett says:

        Ms Keune has left her post on FB, telling anybody who is interested that they have until 25th to lodge their vote at the office. This is despite her application for an injunction to have it extended to the 25th being knocked back. She has a video of the decision on her FB but continues to leave her own video posted telling everybody they have until 25th November to bring their vote to the election office at the V8 office. She also continues to call it a “sham election” but says “it’s not over until the fat lady sings”. For such a woke person I wonder if the semi fat shaming comment is considered politically incorrect these days.
        And if things don’t go the way she wants (and expects), they’ll be her and ThreeNames after blood. Sharpen your pen Mr Magpie, the best is yet to come. It almost Looney Tunes time.

  50. Alacan says:

    In LinkedIn there is a post from Ken Diehm

    I know he has got a mention at times in the Nest

    It is very much worth a read by all the blokes out there

  51. First world problems says:

    Woolies at Hermit Park has like the others jacked up some vege prices per KG , but has taken away the customer scales so you have to guess.

    No fair !

  52. Maggie Moggie says:

    The by-election for Mayor of Townsville began with a lack lustre field of starters, boring as batshit ( no offensive Joanne).

    With the finish line in sight extraordinary scenes; claims of a voting crisis by Thompson, Keune lodging an injunction with electoral commission to extend the election and Greaney frothing at the mouth, promising everything except to tell the truth.

    Phones running hot eager to get out the latest betting odds, crystal balls polished up, Ouija boards dusted off, drinks cabinets stocked, all in the aniticpation of who will be declared victorious in their bid to become mayor if Townsville.

    The election that just keeps on giving, voter fatigue? What voter fatigue?
    Thank fuck it will soon be over…

    • Toy Thompstain says:

      The election might be almost over and Twonames won’t win, but the charade won’t be over. Twonames will sit around on his unemployed free time writing fucking emails, letters, complaints and even pigeon messages to an endless amount of poor recipients. The fuckwit really is bat shit crazy and is in desperate need of electric shock therapy and lithium pills.

      It’s over Troy, just fade away with your 11 or 12 cooker followers. You are the weakest link, goodbye.

      • Maggie Moggie says:

        Toy T,
        Agree, Thompson won’t win the election but he will poll reasonably well, remember he still has his book launch coming up, his shit stirring will continue.

        Keune will use her legal knowledge to complain to gain publicity – for her next tilt in 2028 TCC elecions.

        Greaney will not poll well within her own division, here’s hoping she see the figures, sit out the next couple of years and go find a job where she is qualified in and open up a Foodtruck.

        • Dorfus says:

          With all this talk about the donkey voter, I wonder whether the donkey will come first. With a donkey as mayor, it will be business as usual for Townsville.

    • Blue Bells says:

      Voter fatigue. Too fucking right. I don’t have a State member, Mayor or a councillor, and if by some miracle the Phantom got elected, I would have 3 elections in a month.
      I’m fatigued. Get that last Mayor out of here and get him in court where he can fight all he wants for his freedom.

  53. Lace Monitor says:

    G’day peeps, well it’s almost time for the ballots to be counted. Not sure how Troy Thompson will handle losing this time around. My guess is that he will claim the ECQ and state. Government have rigged the election in Dametto’s favour. That’s what any insane narcissist would do. Just like a giant turd, Townsville will hit the flush button and send Troy on his way. I’m so happy. Just hope I’m not being premature.

    • The Magpie says:

      Now you’ve got Wulguru residents worried that TwoNames might pop in their bathrooms if it rains heavily.

    • Alahazbin says:

      LM, I would say Thompson must have copy of Trumps handbook “How to behave when you lose an election”

    • Jeff Waite says:

      Thompson is not going to go away, this week his CCC report will be released, his Industrial Relations matter is due soon, then there’s the complaints he recently put into the 4 or 5 governing bodies about his alleged documentation proof between the Crisafulli, Leahy, Dametto and Oberhardt. This dick is here to torment us for some time yet.

  54. Rotten Luck Willie says:

    There has been some discussion about the deadline for votes to be received by the ECQ, 20th or 25th November.
    Below is a copy and paste from the ECQ web site.

    Go to the last line.

    Notice of election – Tuesday 7 October 2025
    Close of electoral roll — Monday 13 October 2025
    Candidate nominations – Tuesday 7 October to 12pm on Thursday 16 October 2025
    Election day – Saturday 15 November 2025
    Postal vote completion deadline –Saturday 15 November 2025 at 6pm
    Postal vote return deadline – Tuesday 25 November 2025 at 5pmNotice of election – Tuesday 7 October 2025
    Close of electoral roll — Monday 13 October 2025
    Candidate nominations – Tuesday 7 October to 12pm on Thursday 16 October 2025
    Election day – Saturday 15 November 2025
    Postal vote completion deadline –Saturday 15 November 2025 at 6pm
    Postal vote return deadline – Tuesday 25 November 2025 at 5pm

    • Bob says:

      RLW, some people will misinterpret those words in the last line. They might say to themselves – if I post this envelope on Monday it should “return” to the ECQ by 25 November. They will be disappointed. The ballots must be posted by 6pm TODAY. Anything post marked later than 6pm TODAY will not be counted.

      And Magpie, you need to correct your previous reply to me where you say:

      “All votes have to be received by the 20th . . .”

      • The Magpie says:

        Yup, fat fingers, thanks for the heads up.

      • Rotten Luck Willie says:

        Bob,
        If I complete my ballot paper today, now, well before 6pm and put it in the post box it will not be processed by Aust Post till Monday afternoon, stamped 17th November, if it gets stamped at all. I have received un-stamped letters a couple of times recently.
        Then there is the smart arse (not me this time) who fronts up to the local ECQ office at 4.30pm on the 25th with his completed ballot paper in it’s envelope.
        I am not in a position to say you are wrong but given the imperfections in this system I would hope the ECQ accept all ballot papers however received prior to 5 pm on the 25th.
        In previous phone calls to the ECQ they have been very helpful. I will call them on Monday and ask the question and let you know how I got on.

      • Kenny Kennett says:

        If they are put in the postbox before 6pm today, will they be acceptable because I doubt Australia Post will be working over the weekend to ‘post mark’ those posted out of hours. Just sayin’.

      • crabby says:

        I saw that so assuming then, that all the red letter boxes are emptied this afternoon (Saturday) and postmarked before 6pm, today Saturday?

    • The Magpie says:

      Oh, well, guess a 10 day opportunity for Australia Post to get their shit together. But not sure we can suggest any clusterfuckery lies at their door .. well not much, anyway.

      • Maggie says:

        I spoke to the returning officer last week about the fact that the mail box in nth ward is only emptied mon to fri at 3pm. I pointed out that the closing date for ballots was a saturday at 6pm. She stated that the electoral office took no notice of the po date stamp. Its actually up to people to sign their ballot and by signing it they state they have voted by 6pm on sat 15th. They also need a witness signature. Basically it relys on peoples honesty

        • The Magpie says:

          Then we really are rooted.

          • C. Howett Fields says:

            I don’t get the whole need-for-a-witness signature thing. I came thisclose to popping my ballot in the return envelope before realising in the nick of time that one was needed, and I’m sure there will be quite a few sent in that are otherwise on the level, but missing that crucial element. I can perceive how a postal plebiscite passes over personal presentation at a polling place (pause to wipe keyboard and screen), but I don’t realistically see how this extra step gives any amount of added security, if that’s supposed to be the point.

            In my case, the solution was easy: ‘C’mere, Bowser! Good boy…’ Lots of signatures these days look like the scratchings of a chicken; his will fit right in.

          • Rotten Luck Willie says:

            CHF,
            It is late and The Pie is probably flat out with the late edition of the Blog, for our benefit BUT bozo,
            If you had been seeing how it is, rather than how it feels you would recall that when voting in person the person behind the desk signs, or similar, your ballot paper.
            This, you prize gitt, is the equivalent of your whitness signing your postal vote.

            Your comments are usually insitefull but this time you are the low hanging fruit.

  55. Bob says:

    So if no one is prepared to speculate on the outcome what about the turnout? Last year it was around 75% of an enrolled 140,000+. By now there will be a few more in the electorate and although if Keune is correct there may be quite a few that did not receive a ballot and did not bother to chase one up. Might be lucky to get 50% which will be a bit of a democracy embarrassment but hey, this is Townsville.

    • The Magpie says:

      Interesting point, but it will only take one or two to raise the alarm that they didn’t receive their ballot papers, and the folly of the ECQ’s POV decision will be there for all to see. Good to remember also that Joe McCabe recommended this, and councillors, jumping like jack rabbits at the thought of accusations of fiscal irresponsibility endorsed it.

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