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Saturday, October 18th, 2025   |   275 comments

Something For Everybody Or Nothing For Anybody? It’s A Gump-Like Choccy Box Mayoral Field, Gawd Knows What We’re Gonna Get.

Before noms closed, a very perceptive Magpie mate made this observation,  “So far, without better candidates, it looks like a contest of who will be the least troublesome Mayor. Not the best.” Alas, it seems his. crystal ball was on the money.  So far, so disheartening.

If the field is not all we could hope for, then opening campaign salvos are even less so, demonstrating a weird reading of community priorities. But one candidate missed a golden opportunity to sock it to the present regime.

The incurious Bulletin bellyflops into the water park wet dream, with nary a question in sight.  Our councillors were just as mute.  But The Magpie says there is good evidence to call out this as utter bullshit.

And is old mate Dolan Hayes involved in reviving the failed cheap-end Hilton Hotel that had been proposed next to the stadium? You’d be excused for thinking so, unless you believe in coincidences.

The DMR fuck-ups for the long suffering Paluma residents never ends … the latest social disruption is because someone apparently forgot to bring the dynamite.

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First,  For The Record

To quote old Gilbert & Sullivan: oh, joy and rapture unforeseen.  Except this recipe for further turmoil was so easily seen a mile off.

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We will look at them all over the coming days,  but first, a Magpie advisory just in case you thought things couldn’t get any worse.

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What could possibly go wrong?

But We’re Off And Running Anyway

Given the not totally unexpected out-of-touch start to the mayoral campaign, The ‘Pie has decided to delay finalising the questions to be put to all candidates by email. We have plenty of time, and all your helpful, sometimes funny, occasionally insightful, sometimes balmy, and sometime bullseye suggestions have been collated and are being refined down.  A bit more time will allow us to perhaps include glaring questions the Bulletin is sure not to ask. Keep an eye out and sent anything noted to comments.

But so far, it’s been an unedifying start,  with Dametto and Greaney attacking each other with negative salvos, a most ill advised way to go about things in Townsville.  We simply couldn’t give a fuck what you two think of each other, we are, strangely enough, only interested in what you say you will do for us and for the city’s tattered reputation.

Things didn’t improve when by some strange reasoning,  there was a group-think misreading of community priority concerns which decided that the current dead letter issue of parking meters on The Strand and parking in the CBD were the uppermost concerns  in voters minds.  Not hard to guess where a candidates stands on this (big surprise, they’e all against the meter issue, possibly because it sparked the most genuine outcries of public rage of recent times.) With the major exception of Ma Greaney, who was silent on the issue.

Reflecting his Italian background, Nick ent all operatic for The Astonisher.

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He went full pelt down the bread and circuses route. Somehow,  Dametto has  decided what we all want is a makeover of The Strand. Which makes one wonder who the hell he’s been talking to. The council has already said (ho hum) they plan to refresh the Strand, particularly the Rockpool, so what was this upsizing of the already announced plan all about. Ah, maybe it was this surefire vote winner.

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Strangely, right after this statement, one of those councillors, Ma Greaney is quoted saying council has already put a Strand upgrade in motion, and fired off a pathetic popgun at Dametto saying‘What I’m concerned about is how long Nick wants to lock up public access to the Strand for (his) major changes that will have minimal improvement.” But funnily enough, although Dametto (and Kippin – see next)  appear to have emphatically ruled out Strand meters,  Greaney did not say a word about the issue. This although she was the one who initially pushed it in council, and clearly had workshopped it with our Infrastructure pomposity Matt Richardson.  You can bet she’ll say something this week, but anything short of definitively ruling out Strand meters permanently will not be enough. Just having the possibility  hanging around in the background  is dishonest dealing of the most arrogant sort. And a vote killer.

The Kipper Was Onto It As Well

David Kippin wants to tackle the overall issue of parking around the city but was also besotted with Strand parking.  Surprisingly, he had the the wit to link it to a much broader and concerning issue, calling for an overall review of council parking policy.   He’s under pressure from the Chamber – he’s the business lobby’s  dog in this fight – to back their calls for free parking in the CBD … about the only option left to be of real assistance to the struggling area.  But any review that disagreed with his call for change would leave him weasel way out  of flipping, saying ‘I tried’.

BUT he revealed  something most of us did not know, most certainly The ‘Pie didn’t.  He called for a disclosure around costs around the cancelled meter expansion onto the Strand and other areas like Palmer Street.  The Kipper indicating council bureaucrats had started preliminary physical work on the installation in apparent  secrecy .  But he posed with this pic on the southside purportedly showing where some of that  preliminary work had been jackhammered, stopped and repaired after the outcry.

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The middle of a footpath seems a funny place to put parking meters, but maybe it was temporary wiring works. Or not.  Or maybe The Kipper’s advisor Max Tomlinson had just had a public whoopsie.

As for the other galoot in the round-up, Sean Gleeson, he’s just in it for the nuisance value, but apparently has plenty of time on his hands, since the Bulletin reports

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One wonders if that experience in hospitality was this bit of bio info on Linkedin under the name Sean Gleeson.

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Ironically, going by recent history,  that seems to make him ideal mayoral material.

It will be interesting to see if the Bulletin can come up with some questions about subjects we actually want to know about.  Maybe the ABC can make one of its occasional forays into investigative reporting.

Polite Question 

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“Commercial in confidence” refers to sensitive commercial information that parties agree to keep confidential to protect business interests. This typically includes details like pricing, profits, and proprietary information, and it is legally protected through clauses in contracts like Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs)The goal is to prevent disclosure that could harm a party’s business, market position, or competitive edge. 

The  rules regarding Commercial in Confidence are very much a flexible and often abused government and business tool, but on paper they are straightforward and when used with integrity, are fair enough.  But they come with one major flaw. Just who decides what may be adversely affected by disclosure? And btw, one legit reason for CinC is to protect intellectual property, so it’s safe to say this doesn’t apply to anything to do with this council executive.

The ‘Pie asks this, because here is the real question: why was this matter discussed behind closed doors? Why are we not entitled to know firstly why there needed to be an exemption (all the more reason for this to be out in the public), and why are we not entitled to know who is providing services we pay for? Jenny ‘Mayor Mullet’ Hill was a past master in trotting out CinC on the most transparently unqualified matters,  particularly around dodgy financial matters  But wait, hasn’t everyone agreed that with her departure, we have travelled into the sunlit uplands of transparency and accountability?

Like fuck we have.

This will be added to the questions to candidates we are putting together.

And About That …

Magpie

Given the not totally unexpected out-of-touch start to the mayoral campaign, The ‘Pie has decided to delay finalising the questions to be put to all candidates by email. We have plenty of time, and thank you, all of your helpful, sometimes funny sometimes balmy, sometime bullseye suggestions have been collated and are being refined down.  A bit more time will allow us to perhaps include glaring questions the Bulletin is sure not to ask. Keep an eye out and sent anything noted to comments.

From Comments On Monday.

DOLAN HAYES TO THE RESCUE. CLASSIC!!!!

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Hahahaha, you can take the boy out of Townsville, but you can’t the boy out of Townsville affairs.

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This story has all the hallmarks, the classic stamp of Dolan Hayes canny professionalism all over it …. The uncertainty of an mayoral election, unrest about jobs and progress, and even a welcome swipe at council bureaucracy. And anything to help a pissed-off mate and former business partner. Focus Pacific’s director Michael Graham is a long standing chum and former business associate of the now Brisbane-based lobbyist and backroom boy Hayes.

Mr Hayes … sorry, Mr Graham argues that the last minute pin-pull of the on the on again- off again, constantly down-sized project was all because of some faceless bastards at the council cooked up a story that he’d missed too many paperwork deadlines.

Which is as it may be , but Mr Hay … Graham unwisely says in the story “I remember Troy Thompson and Ann-Maree Greaney accepted our invitation to attend a soil turning ceremony, but two days before they cancelled,” Mr Graham said.

So two of the most unfancied – make that least desirable – candidates get a tick from Mr Graham?

And the Astonisher follows that up with this later in the story:
‘On Friday, October 10, Troy Thompson posted on his Facebook page about the lost Hilton hotel.
“When opportunity knocked, our own council fumbled it,” Mr Thompson said.
“Council refused to negotiate or grant extensions, despite the developer’s readiness to proceed.”

Maybe five years of chopping, changing and dicking the council around, with all decisions being made off-shore,  had something to do with it, but that’s not how dog whistling lobbying works.

Nowadays, Mr Hayes is deep into state matters, and remains a Crisafulli friend despite being a solid Labor man, so we await the premier’s boy in the mayoral race, Nick Dametto, to suddenly find this a worthy project suitable for rejuvenation.

Gotta love this town.

Any Flucking Questions?

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Listening to the bullshit about the proposed Cluden water park cum hotel complex, The ‘Pie is reminded of the old joke about the Japanese pilot in WW11 who was inadvertently drafted into a kamikaze squadron. He wasn’t aware of the mistake until the briefing explained in detail what lay ahead for his last flight.  At the end of the briefing , the officer asked if there were any questions. All was silent until the shocked and confused newcomer stood and said  ‘Any flucking questions?!?’ (Better said than written, but you get the idea).

Well,  The ‘Pie isn’t suicidal but, boy does he have some flucking questions about this you beaut water park and the paper’s reporting of it.

The old bird was dismayed when not one single councillor  (shame on you, Robbo, Suzy) or the acting mayor (or subsequently the Bulletin) thought to politely ask: where is the $550million for this venture coming from? That’s $550 fucking million, folks.

C’mon.

From a ex-footy player from Ayr whose business claims don’t go anywhere near matching the simplest research, which make him sound like he’s had more head knocks that Troy Thompson? And more disgracefully, the paper didn’t have the tiniest tinkling bell suggesting a bit of a look at available background evidence might be a good idea. Oh, well, let’s face it, the reporter was Leighton Smith.

So The Magpie will, as usual, do the Bulletin’s job for it, because it has  again been selling false hope for a cheap headline and (it hopes) readership, all through sheer laziness. Because if they looked into the following, it may well turn out to be a much better story than honeyed words and unsupported assurances of ‘she’ll be right.’

Of course, all of us in Townsville would love to have a water park, why wouldn’t we,  always have, but what we don’t need is another half-arsed chancer developer yet again causing community despondency when grandiose blather turns to bitter ashes. We don’t deserve it.

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So first, the Mexican restaurant franchisee turned developer Shaun McCarthy.  Now Mr McCarthy, you will no doubt be reading this (probably at the behest of a misguided lawyer), The ‘Pie does not know you,  and bears you no personal ill will, and is just working on available information which you are at liberty to correct on this blog.

You have claimed (or at the very least, have not refuted) in the Bulletin and on another site (we’ll get to it in a moment) that you have opened 56 restaurants in Queensland and 26 in Ireland.  Any timeline on this unbelievable (and I mean un-bloody-believable) claim is not available, but christ, man, you must’ve been a juvenile genius,  because guess where you’ve been for the past 14 years.

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But let’s be generous here, and suppose your claim of ‘opening’ 56 restaurants in Queensland  are just franchises … well that’s some feat in itself, even if you just rocked up with the keys on behalf of franchise owner, because Zambrero only have 59 Queensland outlets.  ‘Opened’ is very different to founding, owning or operating, so mate, if it sounds like bullshit … you know the rest. And 26 in Ireland? Now that is interesting. When were you there, because according to your Linkedin bio,  you were busy giving the squitters to  a Townsville clientele. (Was that the one in Flinders Street that under recently?)  But it seems you rugby players have a thing about Zambrero, although it can’t be the 26 in Ireland you claim, because we just came across this – from August last year.

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Which brings us to this gentleman, one Neville Smith, of the commercial real estate crowd Burgess Rawson.

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Just what he’s got to do with this isn’t clear, but Mr Smith penned a pants wetting article about the proposed water park in the industry magazine  The Hotel Conversation (which includes Mr McCarthy’s restaurant claims). It’s a gusher big enough to be  a water park feature. itself

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Mr Smith is the head of the Townsville office of Burgess Rawson, which describes itself as ‘one of Australia’s leading property agencies and is full service agency, we sell, value, lease and manage commercial and residential investment assets for a large private investor community. ‘ Ah, so you’ve got some money tied in, a few lazy hundreds of millions from a magic investor?  Did they stump up the not inconsiderable cost of getting approval through council … and this is, remember, only a preliminary approval, for a major development in the troubled sewerage corridor that takes in JCU, the TU hospital,  Lavarack Barracks,  and the nearby Fairfield shopping mall.  Mr McCarthy, your breezy assurances of ‘no worries, she’ll be jake’ to the council are far from convincing.  But if that is the case, and all is … shall we say, … watertight,  The ‘Pie humbly apologises for asking so many questions.

Still, The ‘Pie is happy that he doesn’t live in Wulguru.

By the way, how are things progressing with the Turf Club, owners of the proposed site? At last report, they still own it, and no indications that a sale is imminent.

But For Their Age, Sterilisation Would Be Justified

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If the Bonking Beetroot started humping Hanson,  and offspring arrived, the outcome would be inevitable.

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Fortunately, that possibility is , well … inconceivable.

Just As Well The DMR Aren’t Bank Robbers ….

… they’d be like a Carry On comedy.

Paluma residents are still enjoying travel restrictions as seemingly never-ending work to repair the weather damaged (10months ago) Mt Spec road, but they were even less amused recently . It seems the DMR contractors  were recently  confronted with a rock in a hard place – this one, in fact.

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Yup, a bloody big un from the Dreamtime.  After half a dozen hi-vized blokes stood around for a couple of days weighing up their options, it was decided that crowbars wouldn’t do the job (‘Bugger that, Neville, me back’s already crook, let’s blow the fucker up.)  So the DMR’s award winning PR team (don’t ask what award, please) advised Paluma residents that they wouldn’t be able to use the road between Friday 17 just gone and tomorrow Monday 20.  So Paluma residents , a stiff upper lip lot by now,  rearranged social plans,  including a large district social gathering in the Paluma Hall, and weekend shopping trips.    DMR crews were assembled, safety blokes with lollipop paddles were lined up,  the essential mobile canteen moved a safe distance away, and they were all set.

‘OK, all looks safe and ready. Lug that bloody dynamite up here, Nev, we’ll pack it around the base.’

“Dynamite? What bloody dynamite, Cyril? That’s not my job, bloody dangerous, that stuff.  Mick’s supposed handle that side of things.”

‘Yeah, but Mick’s off sick with that blonde up at Cairns HQ. You were told to get it instead.’

Was not.’

“Were too.’  And so forth

So the day before the supposed closure, Paluma residents received this.

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And it just so happens that the large social gathering was rescheduked for … you guessed it …  November 1.

The One Brilliant Success That Benjamin Netanyahu And Trump Don’t Want To Claim … But It’s Theirs Alright

The collective acceptance of the fractured reality in the current Middle East arrangement is another setback for humanity. We seem unable  to control any clear-eyed narrative reality, rather than succumbing to the twisted narrative of two of the world’s most murderous, unconscionable  self-seeking egos.  Anyone who believes that the hostage exchange was anything more than that … let alone a risible suggestion of not just ‘peace’ but ‘a lasting peace’ – has finally said farewell to any vestige of rational informed thinking.
This distorted vision is already fraying at the edges,  with Gaza ‘clans’ taking to the streets to take advantage of the IDF ‘withdrawal’,  bumping off people with an impunity hard to fathom anywhere else.  And many of the returned hostage bodies aren’t kosher … they’re actually Palestinians killed by Israel.

What is happening right now is just a small pause in what has been happening for 2000+ years,  and there is the logic of bitter experience in believing peace is nowhere in sight. The reason is that for the past two years or more, Benjamin Netanyahu, with Trump’s acquiescence, has conducted one of the most successful Hamas and terrorist group recruiting  campaigns ever, to promote further generational warfare.  It’s been the ultimate radicalisation.  And not just among Palestinians and other intractable groupings of the region.  Ironically,  Netanyahu’s relentless genocidal campaign, so resembling a Nazi strategy,  has given energy to extreme right wing groups around the world, most of whom are antisemitic.

And strutting through all is the cartoon figure of Trump,  claiming he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Wonder If We’ll Get Something Like This During Our Election Campaign

A couple of councillors have already shown they are getting savvy with social media to push their arguments, so wonder if we’l start getting ‘messaging’ like this, from New York mayoral front runner and maverick Zohran Mamdani.  

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Well, we’re off and running, The ‘Pie will do his best to keep up with things, keep an eye out for any developments in comments.  Donate button to help out with Nest costs is below.

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275 Comments

  1. Indian Joe says:

    None of them deserves the top job. All are wanna be mayors. 1 is still wet behind the ears at 27 years old. Firstly get rid of you face jewellery unless your going for the Goth mayor. Joanne keune is Labor not independent as yes says she is paul jacob is Labor not independent. Nick dametto is kap which is labour aline.do we want labour back in the seat hell no. David Kipin was sacked from tell and was part of the new hospital drama. The others never heard of. Accept Ann marie greaney. Don’t cast your vote till after TT ccc finding are out then cast your vote

    • John Wilkes Booth says:

      I J,
      There is the real possibility that the TT CCC report may be released after the election cut off date.
      No matter, TT is going last. I will vote worst, that’s TT, to least worst.
      I will rely on the answers to The Pie’s questionnaire to place in order the other candidates.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      You sound like a TT supporter. The CCC findings aren’t going to matter. The man is unstable and not fit to run a bath.

  2. John Wilkes Booth says:

    Townsville once had two water slides. One where the expanded Willows shopping centre now stands and the other on Woolcock Street almost opposite Castletown. They were a lot of fun.

    • The Magpie says:

      And very popular, by all accounts. Given our location and population, why do we need some grandiose ‘beach club, mega hotel’ stuff to go with an honest to goodness old style park of waterslides and splash pools, picnic area and other kid friendly playgrounds. And it doesn’t have to be on prime property that in this case, we are told, will need to be heightened 3 metres across the entire site. A simple, fun installation, where tourists could get a real feel for our lifestyle. if we’re ever allowed to have one.

      This proposal is at core a good idea grown out of reasonable and safe proportions, like so many failed projects over recent years that have failed. There seems to be an element of greed and derangement in this helter-skelter mantra of forced growth for growths sake… has anybody ever taken this mindset to its logical conclusion.

  3. Prince Rollmop says:

    Well well. Game on. 9 muppets hungry to wear the possum furs and snatch the $250k salary. I’ve broken down the list of candidates to provide a better picture of who they are. I’ve included their odds of winning. Here we go (Elusive Butterflog don’t ready any further);

    Canteen boy Gleeson. No life experience, still has acne and yet to pull his first root. 99:1 odds.

    Twonames. Master shonk, habitual liar and deceptive charlatan. Skills include epileptic fits and questionable ethics. He looks like a plastic barbie doll and has Venten, Watt and Lame Stephen as his backers. 100:1 odds.

    Hairy Pastel. Nice guy and great with colostomy bags and changing catheters. 80:1 odds

    Slick Demented. Everyone’s favourite son. But so far up Crissafulli’s ass that they call him ‘toenails’ as that is all there is left to see. 2:1 odds.

    Chris Pulls’them. Construction and mining background. Loves orange shirts and sleeping in his bed without showering first. Typical mining grub. 50:1 odds.

    Foodtrucks Greaney. Loves wearing marque tents and indulging in fatty food. Hasn’t seen her feet in decades. 30:1 odds.

    Poor Jacob, 1970’s clothing advocate. Does put up some good arguments but his lack of dress sense is distracting and amusing. He looks like Dirk Diggler. 20:1 odds.

    Crowanne Keune. Former business manager and spent time at Dance North so she is used to working with queers and steers. 30:1 odds.

    Kippers. Failed businessman, wordsmith and serial bullshit artists. French kisses his bedroom mirror goodnight every evening. 25:1 odds.

    It stands to be an entertaining month. Once the gloves come off there should be some nice backstabbing, lying, and embellishment of facts. A standard field of political aspirant’s desperately vying to get their trotters deep inside the mayoral trough.

    • Mount Low Brow says:

      I like your odds, Mopsy! In good time for the Cup too. However I think the bookies might be offering a shorter price for Dametto…

  4. Maggie Moggie says:

    Malcolm,
    These days I often go over to town, I do not have vehicle on the mainland, so the journeys are by bus, taxi or walking. It does give me an opportunity to see the state of a few of the suburbs.

    The whole place needs some TLC, it looks grubby and neglected. TCC need to employ more workers on the streets, parks and gardens.
    As for The Strand area it needs a makeover, the CBD needs a major facelift.
    Council needs to take pride in this city, its citizens will follow.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      They can’t afford to employ workers Moggie. The executive are getting paid so much these days. No garden maintenance because the CEO and Directors need a beach house in Surfers and a regular holiday in Europe.

    • Clarabelle says:

      I’m still wondering what’s wrong with The Strand. What sort of “makeover” would you envisage?

      • The Magpie says:

        How about for the time being we just let the candidates have their say, and hold off counter-commenter argument.

  5. Kenny Kennett says:

    Nice one as usual. Perhaps a bonus question for each of the candidates which is specific to the person.
    ie. Greaney – have the parking meters previously purchased for the Strand been returned to the manufacturer or are they still in storage and how many are there?
    Shawn McCarthy – why are you claiming to be person behind Zambreros?
    Kippin – what role did you play in the Townsville Crocodiles returning their NBL licence to the NBL administration?
    Dametto – do you support any right wing groups?
    Harry – do you really think you can make a difference if you win the election?
    TwoNames – were you really a long term Camp Quality charity volunteer, as claimed in the previous Mayoral election or is this another lie?
    Sean Gleeson – do you wear your pig suit during Ramadan?
    Joanne Keune – you stood for Council previously, spending a lot of campaign money and lost quite badly. Why are you now returning to politics, this time for the mayoral election?
    Chris Poulson – who are you?
    Paul Jacob – is the Labor party supporting you?
    Just an idea

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Dametto- what are your views on Trump?

      • Percy says:

        And Nazi’s?

        • Tropical Cyclone says:

          Define Nazi?

          • The Magpie says:

            Not sure you’ll fully understand it, since you don’t even know how to google. But …

            Nazism is defined as a political ideology that emphasizes extreme nationalist and totalitarian principles, often rooted in social, ideological, and political processes, which can dictate social practices and interactions based on specific sociocultural values and norms.

        • Blue Bells says:

          and people photo bombing

      • Pedant says:

        The ballot is to elect the Mayor of Townsville, not the Prime Minister of Australia. Who cares what any of them think of Trump… it matters about as much as Trump thinks of each of them, surely?

        • The Magpie says:

          True enough but the obvious inference was connection to far right wing ideology.

          • Clarabelle says:

            On that point of far right ideology, Pie, yesterday your long term nester Ducks Nuts tipped you off about an interview Dametto did two years ago on a cooker you tube channel. You haven’t mentioned this in your blog this week.
            I followed the link Ducky provided and it should be required viewing for anyone planning to vote for beaut bloke Nick. I could only take 15 minutes of him talking about himself, but in a nutshell: he was a small business hopeful who had just established a jet ski hire business in Townsville when the canny Bob Katter flattered him with an offer he couldn’t refuse. Transformed as MP for Hinchenbrook, he’s been running with the big boys now for nearly a decade.
            Maybe the reason he gets photographed with Nazi demonstrators he says he doesn’t recognise; and he goes on cooker interviews; is he’s just not that bright.
            I never thought I would say this, but, If we’re going to be saddled with a pedestrian Mayor we might be better off with Greaney who knows her place. Simple subservience to CEO Joe McCabe, without elaborated collaboration.

          • The Magpie says:

            As you found out, the link speaks for itself. That was quite sufficient. But you’ve certainly saved Nesters the unpleasant experience of staring ignorance in the face in the form of that nitwit Batty.

            You seem miffed that the link wasn’t featured in the Nest≥ If you’re dissatisfied with The Magpie’s choice of blog contend, you can always start your own.

    • Critical says:

      Sean Gleeson lost his drivers licence a couple of years ago and hasn’t been able to pass any one of the three plus drivers licence tests over the past 12 months to regain his licence. If he can’t remember information for drivers licence tests, how the hell is he going to remember information required to carry out the Mayoral role.

    • Brewster says:

      Based on the last week of campaigning & media:
      2:1 Dametto, 5:1 Thompson, 8:1 Kippin, 20:1 Kuene,
      25:1 Jacob, 30:1 Greaney, 50:1 Poulson, 80:1 Patel & 100:1 Gleeson.

      Thompson should not be allowed to run, but he still has a lot of support, using people’s dislike of council and media as motivation from voters. I can’t believe how many still are voting for him. Dametto has it in the bag if he doesn’t screw this up. Greaney may have some humble pie coming and I’m thinking it won’t be well received, her ego is out of control. Kippin is the LNP darling, with Kopitke, McDonald and gang backing him, LNP social media behind him, and Kuene is a known TCC supporter, close to Greaney, people need to expose that.

      Dametto for the win

      • The Magpie says:

        You’re not very bright at analyse, TeasMaid, especially putting Thompson at second choice 5 to 1. And if as you say, Kuene is a TCC supporter (what does that actually mean, anyway?) ‘close to Greaney’, why would she run … her only function would then be to take votes away from Greaney, they both appeal to the middle class predominately female voter?

        • Brewster says:

          Kuene is close mates with Greaney, preferences probably going to Greaney. She’s not going in to change a thing, like the councillors sees nothing wrong with the momentum. Even you said last week, the conman says all the right things, and he’s doing it again, doesn’t mean it’s right or truthful, I think he’s closest to Dametto, the protest vote. As I said, Dametto in a landslide, Crisafulli has another puppet

          • The Magpie says:

            Thompson does NOT say all the right things, he says all the populist, mostly unworkable, things that the lazy and the ignorant want to hear … anything to get into office. And then change his tune entirely.

          • Richard says:

            Mostly saying all the right things

    • Brewster says:

      Greaney – meters still at main store TCC.
      Shawn McCarthy – Another shyster
      Kippin – Front and centre
      Dametto – Shooter & Fishing funded
      Harry – He will play music in the chamber
      TwoNames – It’ll never end
      Sean Gleeson – Put his hand up as a joke
      Joanne Keune – Using her TCC connections
      Chris Poulson – Great Thai food
      Paul Jacob – Full member of Labor

      What a shit show!

      • Ducks Nuts says:

        Poulson, worse dress sense than Jacob. But Thai food is good.

        Keune at least she will speak good and proper and have a grasp of the law. Unlike some others… Thompson, Dametto…

        Kippin, likely to increase the council smoko room expenses by eating all the biscuits

        Greaney, needs to get her act together is she wants to be in this race.

      • Guy says:

        I might have stood but a few weeks forewarning wasnt enough – unless strangely the main players that have popped up as our saviours were told in advance. Good old fashioned election rigging , I’m surprised they didn’t just give 24 hours notice for nominations and close the nominations down at the close of business on the same day.

  6. Doug K says:

    Election signage is starting to pop up all over the place.
    Dametto is everywhere. Must own shares in a corflute factory.
    Greaney’s (understandably) make her look like a deer in the headlights.
    Thompson has invited disgruntled voters to make comments on his chances by leaving white space under his roadside sign on Dalrymple Road.
    Watch that space.
    The circus is just getting started.

    • Maggie Moggie says:

      Doug,
      Any election material gone up around the showgrounds?
      Condon usually makes it known who he wants or doesn’t want, the signage is usually quite large.
      Haven’t sighted any election signage on the island yet – but it is only early days.

      On another matter can any of nesters advise what is happening at the old rail yards? Went past there last Friday, quite a bit of large machinery on site, looks like they are having a big clean up?
      Amazing what happens when there is an upcoming mayoral by election?

      • The Magpie says:

        Have seen a Dametto and a Greaney sign in the middle of the North Ward Denham/Eyre street roundabout. Illegal surely, and a bloody glaring driver distraction.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      I see Dametto has Michael Pugh on the job putting up signs and letterboxing. This raises a few questions about Dametto continuing affiliations with KAP. Or is he just short of mates to help out?

  7. Alahazbin says:

    I see in Shaun McCarthy’s bio that one of his connections is Dan Ryder. Maybe that’s why Suzie never opposed the development.

    • The Magpie says:

      The ‘Pie never believes it wise to read much into connections listed on any social media.

      Anyway, the develoopment didn’t and doesn’t need to be opposed, just questions asked to ensure the council’s time isn’t being wasted.

      The ‘Pie has always advocated regulation to encourage serious players and deter the chancers (they being the ones that get all the approval through, then one sell the project for a handy profit … legal but hardly progressive). Perhaps locked-in start dates on final approval. And why isn’t it OK to ask some broad question about finance?

  8. Ralph says:

    Pie, I posted a comment on the cost of a funeral notice in the Bulletin approx $600, Saturday Bulletin had one funeral notice, so the spiels of ‘we are for you’ is total rubbish, it’s what we can fleece you of if you want to let friends, family and old work mates know of the passing on of person that you would like to attend their funeral of such person, not very impressed, Ralph.

  9. Lucky Harold Philips says:

    Not a lot of time to garner some bona fides and even some recognition but it is the Hayseed Derby we probably even have the former disgraced one to even out the numbers. Do we get a limited field of candidates? don’t want to be oversubscribed can’t all be parking meters shonky efforts, going on the former holders of the title “Mayor” a pig in a poke then

    • I’ll be plucked says:

      Say WHAT Harold? Wanna have another go, so we can TRY and understand what it is you are on about?…. :( Pluck me!

  10. Guy says:

    For what it’s worth I’ve decided to weigh into the middle east conflict.

    I spent some time in Israel/ Palestine decades ago, initially at the kibbutz, then the west bank, then the deep south in the desert.

    It was different then , yes there was “trouble” but despite the flares that floated down in the night sky over Nablus , the violence was “contained” and you could still visit the gaza strip ( i turned the opportunity down at the time to spend more time in the kibbutz pool). Nahal Oz is a kibbutz a few kilometres off the gaza strip everything was green and quiet , i always did wonder though…..then on 7/10 came men with guns and killed the kibbutzniks. Trouble in that area comes quickly, out of nowhere and with extreme violence.

    The October 7th attack is suspicious to say the least.

    Despite at least 2 countries passed on intel to israel that an attack was coming

    The day of the attack the system was down

    when the attack started its said it was SIX hours before a counter attack was attacked.

    The burnt houses with puncture holes in them weren’t damaged by hamas, they were destroyed by Israeli tanks firing shells into residential buildings with hamas AND israelis inside ( knowingly inside)

    The rapid response groups , bar 1/2 of them were removed from gaza strip and sent to the west bank days before the attack

    The kibbutzniks were DISARMED in the months before the attack

    Many of the Israeli casualties were caused by IDF helicopter gunships firing upon israelis being captured by hamas – better to kill them before being used as hostages.

    People that have worked the border can’t understand how the alarm was ignored.

    Israeli troops were told directly to stand down and allow hamas to move deeper into israel .

    All conspiracy theories that seem to be the truth with every passing day.

  11. Homo erectus says:

    What a mob of deadbeat candidates. Nothing short of hideous. This as an entire field that needs to be scratched. I can’t believe that this is the quality Townsville has to offer. Seriously, we are fucked..

  12. Tropical Cyclone says:

    Great definition of “Nazi.” But I wonder which aspects wouldn’t also apply to the extreme left today. The deprivation of individual freedoms, control over citizens, monitoring personal movements, social media posts, or ideological opinions, and even targeting certain groups—like white, heterosexual males—could arguably be characteristic of either Nazism or Communism. Today, the lines between these extremes seem very blurred.
    You’re right, though—I don’t really understand terms like “Islamophobic,” “Islamist,” “antisemitic,” “racist,” “genocide,” “Nazi,” “woke,” “homophobic,” “psychopath,” and “ADHD” seem to be thrown around willy-nilly, often without any real basis in fact or truth. Convinient labels to pigeon hole people into the correct box. Can you be against immigration without being racist or pro public housing without being communist. Would it be great to stop labelling people and start trying to understand the other side of the discussion.Or maybe just label everyone a NAZI

    • Guy says:

      When you help the poor you are a saint

      If you ask why there are poor you are a communist

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      You can be pro public housing without being communist. Thats because a true democracy looks after its people and uses public housing policy as a tool for affordable housing.
      And yes you can be anti immigration without being racist but it depends on your reasons behind being against immigration. Blaming immigrants for social issues, such as a housing shortage, is when it becomes racist.

      • The Magpie says:

        Blaming the policy – ergo the government – for keeping migration rates too high, a level where we can’t house them among other things, isn’t racist. Blaming the poor sods who have already arrived here isn’t actually racist, either, because it’s not one race we’re talking about, it’s the socially intrusive amorphous numbers that make up the immigrant sector. And sure it’s a cliche, but best remember that arrival dates make no difference, in Australia, we are ALL immigrants … including those who came across the Asian land bridge 60,000 or whatever years ago.

        And you’re right that we should be careful about the difference between communism and socialism. The Americans have forgotten all social humanity in a culture growing uglier by the day, and you see the hypocritical mess that’s got them into.

    • Sieg heil says:

      Nazism is an expression of personal taste. So what if you are a Nazi, Catholic, Buddhist or one of the Illuminati. Everyone has different ideals and ideologies. There is very much a place for Nazism in today’s modern society.

  13. Tropical Cyclone says:

    “Blaming immigrants for social issues—like housing shortages—is when it becomes racism.” That’s exactly my point: labels are being thrown around like confetti, with little regard for their real meaning. Calling someone a ‘Nazi’ instantly paints a target on them for extremists on the left. “as we have recently seen a couple of weeks ago” and words have power labels stick ,If anyone understands the power of words, it’s journalists.”
    Image if people just discussed issues with words and opinions with facts. My God that could make a big difference.
    For your information “A racist is a person who believes that one race is inherently superior or inferior to another, or who discriminates against people based on their race or ethnicity. As an adjective, racist describes words, actions, policies, or systems that express, reinforce, or result in racial prejudice or discrimination.”
    Immigrants are not a race and immigration is not about superiority.
    As for housing Immigration numbers are most definitely putting extreme pressure on housing affordability as is negative gearing, capital gains tax, foreign ownership AB&B number of apprenticeships ect ect ect but immigration is definitely part of it.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Facts are important.

      Net migration currently sits at 1% annually and without migration we would have a declining population.

      Also we have more than enough dwellings to house the population. Dwelling construction has kept pace with population for the last 10 years and has outpaced it.

      “In the past 10 years, the population has increased by 16 per cent. That means, for Australia to maintain the same average number of people per dwelling, the number of dwellings needs to increase by at least 16 per cent. But over those 10 years the number of dwellings rose by 19 per cent.”

      The issue is how the dwellings are used (second home, airbnb or vacant for negative gearing purposes) and how expensive those remaining are to own/rent. The supply of low income housing is very limited. And the demand is high.

      Its not about immigrants, they’re just the convenient bogey man to blame.

      Also in case you haven’t been listening, most of the arguments currently being bandied around about immigrants is “we only want immigrants from Western countries”. Thats why its racist. Thats why anti immigration supporters are bring labelled as Nazis. Because its Nazi rhetoric.

      https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/is-population-growth-driving-the-housing-crisis-heres-the-reality/

      • Tropical Cyclone says:

        I could find many counter facts to your facts. Even the ABC has started discussing immigration and cost of living pressure.
        I don’t think most people are saying they only want immigrants from Western countries. What they are generally saying is that they want a temporary pause on immigration from all countries for a set period. After that, they want immigration numbers to be sustainable and manageable. They want immigrants who can genuinely contribute to the country’s needs, rather than simply filling low-skilled roles like driving for ride-share services. They also want immigrants who are willing to assimilate into the community. Lastly, most people don’t want the student visa to be used as a backdoor entry into permanent immigration. I believe these views are mostly reasonable.

        • The Magpie says:

          More or l;ess agree with all that, but The ‘Pie must say he has never heard the call for migrants from only western countries … well, certainly not from any reputable source.

  14. Bob says:

    Magpie, since you are still casting about for the perfect set of questions to put to the mayoral candidates may I suggest one that is relevant, immediately current to this specific council and likely to engage the whole Townsville community in due course? At last week’s council meeting the TCC approved the Package 1 Amendments to the City Plan which sets out town planning guidelines into the future. One particular aspect of those plans relates to so-called eco-tourism developments on Council ‘green zones’ on Magnetic Island (only). This council, with support from the Deputy Premier no less, wants to limit public involvement in tourist development applications and water down planning, social, financial and environmental considerations in order to improve feasibility or viability – much like they bent over backwards for the Hilton hotel fiasco and might be asked to do something similar with the water park. But this amendment only applies to Magnetic Island. By changing the assessment regime from IMPACT assessment to CODE assessment the Council succeeds in excluding public involvement in the planning and approval process including legal appeals. Yet no councillor has ever explained why this is necessary, how it is supposed to work or why the entire Townsville community must be excluded from decision making about our cherished island suburb. The proposal was never discussed let alone debated, we didn’t have a ‘proper’ mayor to explain it, so can we put it on the mayoral candidates to canvass their attitude to this form of undemocratic community exclusion? And if they’ve never heard of it they should damn well get their heads around it now.

    • Bob says:

      And since TCC is so hard up for cash and able to blithely slacken rules to give developers a leg up, would any mayoral candidates think of following Brisbane’s lead and introduce rate hikes for short term rental properties – say, just on Magnetic Island? Brisbane’s explanation was that “the increase aims to discourage properties from being taken off the long-term rental market and to recognize the higher regulatory costs associated with these properties.” Hmmm. Higher regulatory costs eh? At least Brisbane had an explanation.

      • The Magpie says:

        But wouldn’t that explanation be universal, Bob?

        • Bob says:

          Well, judging by the engagement or lack of it by our existing councillors I’d say no one has a clue. On the other hand, whoever thought up this shift in assessment methods and the resultant exclusion of public participation must have tapped into some motherlode of brazen intervention. Look out the rest of Townsville. Jarrod Bleijie with a glint in his eye is positively Trumpian and menacing.

      • Clarabelle says:

        Bob
        This has already happened with the last round of rate assessments. If you let out an entire property on a short stay basis ( eg Airbnb) that property is now assessed as commercial, so rates have approximately doubled.

        • The Magpie says:

          And commercial is exactly what it is under those circumstances.

          • Clarabelle says:

            Agreed.
            Yet Airbnb rarely rates a mention in the discussion on housing availability. It is right up there with negative gearing and capital gains tax in terms of commercialising properties that should be family homes.
            On Magnetic Island, a decade ago there were just 40 or so listings on Airbnb. Now there are well over 400. There is nowhere for families to live anymore.
            It’s the same all over the world. Anywhere with ANY appeal to tourism has been overwhelmed by these short-term stay platforms.
            Our Council has zoomed right in on this source of revenue. They don’t seem to have a problem bringing the money in. The problem seems to be in how it’s spent and to whose advantage.

          • The Magpie says:

            Your last line applies to ALL council income.

        • Bob says:

          Point of info, Clarabelle. How does council differentiate short term rental properties from long term ones? If it is a negative geared investment property how does council find out exactly what is happening there? I appreciate how they COULD find out but how do they ACTUALLY do it?

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Why would council need to? All they need to know for rating purposes is that it is, or it isnt your principal place of residence.

          • The Magpie says:

            But don’t they make a differentiation between long term rental and short term? And thus rate differently?

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Yeah. They do. Likely use some kind of STR-monitoring software. Short Term Rental. Perfectly legal.

          • Bob says:

            Thanks for nothing, Ducks. Clarabelle seems to say that TCC can pick up whether a property is being used for short term rental rather than long term rental. I wondered how they do this. Obviously, in many or most cases, such properties are not the ‘principal place of residence’ of the owner and obviously they are ‘commercial’ in nature. In the matter of the housing crisis, long term rentals are in desperately short supply, partly because many such properties are being switched over to short term holiday rentals. Councils, through their rate fixing powers, can influence this ‘switching’. What I was trying to discover is whether Townsville Council sets a different rate structure for short term rentals (such as Airbnb) compared to long term rentals? And if they do, how is this policed?

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            Yes Bob they do. You can find the rating structure by reading the Schedule of Rates and Charges. You can find that using Google.

            It also uses some big words, like “density” which you might need help with.

          • Bob says:

            Here’s the different rates categories:

            Cat1 Residential Principal Place of Residence. Rate in $: 0.009054 Minimum rate: $1,253

            Cat2 Residential Non-Principal Place of Residence. Vacant residential land or residential premises used as a place of residence to provide rental accommodation to permanent residents, Rate in $: 0.011318 Minimum rate: $1,566

            Cat2T Residential – Transitory Accommodation. Residential premises used as a place of residence to provide transitory accommodation to a paying guest, Rate in $: 0.016750 Minimum rate: $2,318

    • The Magpie says:

      Very good points you make, but good luck getting a ‘proper’ mayor out of the current elbowing bunch.

    • Clarabelle says:

      The Councillors would be unlikely to know much. They had no involvement at all in producing that planning Amendment. It was all done by Council employees, then presented for endorsement in the Chamber as a fait accompli. The whole intention of TCC’s planning is to streamline development approvals by removing irritants like public consultation and input from our elected Councillors.

      • Bob says:

        Troy Thompson knew about it quite soon after he was elected. It did not come out of nowhere. It started well before this council and this CEO but the Labor state govt wouldn’t have a bar of it.

        • Ducks Nuts says:

          What did Troy Thompson know? His army number? The university degrees he didn’t have? The fraud charges against him? If he’d had cancer or just gastric sleeve surgery?
          How many knocks to his head he’d had playing football?

          • Bob says:

            When newly elected TT was asked about previous and ongoing practices of council, or at least the last mayor, to change the zoning and development procedures for TCC ‘green’ spaces, his response indicated that he knew about it and was already thinking about how it might work for him. Property owners on Maggie knew about it too because they could see how it might impact them. Don’t be too quick to presume the origins were entirely within the council bureaucracy. Movers and shakers like mayors and their yes-voting teams are quite capable, and willing, to use the levers of governance to get what they want. So having thought of it, or succumbed to a lobbyist, they go to their directors and managers and ask them to design a process which will achieve the end they have in mind. Hey, that’s Government 101.

          • The Magpie says:

            Yes-voting team, eh? You sweet, old fashioned guy, that’s yesterday’s set-up.

          • Bob says:

            Just before yesterday, last Wednesday in fact, they voted 9-1 for a policy change kicked off by Jenny Hill years ago. Adding a mayor to the numbers won’t make much difference – 10-1, 9-1, 8-2, pretty much the same result.

  15. The Magpie says:

    Well, it didn’t take the Astonisher long to make clear its rating of our mayoral election. At the start of the very first week of campaigning, this pesky old election has been relegated to page 16.

    But at least there was a refreshingly direct campaign manifesto from one of the two candidates reported in today’s paper.

    Joanne Keune has made a solid and sensible start to her campaign, hitting a few buttons that get straight to the heart of our council’s malaise. It’s not surprising that a professional public speaking coach has managed a plain language opening gambit, and nailed a major point first up in today’s Bulletin.

    Keune proposed countering what The ‘Pie has correctly called a council executive power grab by using a mayoral position to bring back committees, which, it is now apparent, were scrapped at the urging of the TCC executive and CEO. As The Magpie lamented at the time, long standing committee system ensured councillors had the opportunity to be involved in discussions across a range of issues, close-up and personal with council officers, to be better informed, and shape resolutions to council without having often unpleasant and unfair surprises sprung on them.

    Keune believes she has skills to encourage councillors to be more involved and didn’t mince her words (unusual for a political aspirant) when she said “I feel they (the councillors) have become spectators on what’s happening and not actually in there participating”. Ouch maybe, but mostly accurate certainly!

    She also flagged that she will argue for rate rises not to be raised beyond CPI, and seek an overall review of middle management processes.

    Not a bad kick-off, but lots to happen before the final whistle. But on this start, Keune might be one to watch.

    • John Wilkes Booth says:

      And she is a lawyer.

      • The Magpie says:

        Yes, given that, she deserves some points for not having any triple negative in a single sentence.

        • John Wilkes Booth says:

          Pie, you are a passionate wordsmith.
          When or if the mayoral candidates reply to your questionnaire perhaps you could rate them on their wordsmithing abilities. It might be informative.
          Do they have the vocabulary of Professor Roly Sussex or Donald Trump?

          • The Magpie says:

            Passionate doesn’t equal competent … or entitled to judge anyone else. And The ‘Pie can live without the cross to bear of being constantly reminded of having all his haste-driven errors gleefully pointed out.

    • Geronimous says:

      The old committee meetings became a farce. Only some Councillors were ever at each committee meeting, and those who were would often deliberately not ask questions so they could save the ‘gotcha’ question for the big stage Council meeting with the cameras rolling. Waste of time, they were, and getting rid of them freed up time to have two Council meetings a month and workshops. The workshops allow councillors to ask what might be sometimes stupid questions without a public audience. So there you have it, the two big wins were more opportunities for stupid questions and more decisions made each month.

      • The Magpie says:

        You have not made allowances for the regime under which they operated.

        And ‘freed up councillors to have two meetings a month’? Goodness, the poor dears … but guess you’re right, too much to handle, most of them couldn’t chew gum and fart at the same time, eh?

    • Ex TCC says:

      Well we had all that and more when Tyrell was in charge and Townsville first followed. Many councillors were made out as people who stood in the way of progress by our roadkill driver mayor hill. So now another labor aligned wannabe mayor says she wants to bring it all back. Why did we vote it out in the first place.

  16. Lab Rat says:

    Ms Keune will get my vote based on what I have seen and read. Intelligent and well spoken, the very opposite of Twonames.
    Could our wonderful city have found the leader we need desperately to take us forward?

  17. Kenny Kennett says:

    Pie’, why didn’t you publish my comment about Keune? Perhaps it’s because I disagreed with your opinion.

    • The Magpie says:

      Because your comment was just base abuse without a single fact, point of debatable disagreement or anything other than low level slanging that added nothing to any debate. You didn’t even try to argue or refute anything in The Magpie’s factual reporting of what she said, or his opinion of same.

      Personally, The ‘Pie reckons you’ve got the hots for her, and are a disappointed droopy little man.

      • Kenny Kennett says:

        Pie, you are being a sook. By not publishing my comment you are taking away transparency and freedom of speech. Isn’t that what Trump has done and isn’t that what our federal governments E-Karen has done with social media? Very disappointing.

        • The Magpie says:

          OK.Kenny, let’s have a look at this. First.

          And now we’ll let other Nesters decide if your whining is justified. This is the comment The ‘Pie deleted, judging it was just low-level, pointless abuse that added nothing to a grown-ups debate.
          .
          Classic Coaching bullshit. I’ll bet she had a big cry when she drew number 8 on the ballot paper. Gonna gonna gonna…if, I’d like to…blah, blah, blah. She’s full of shit, but so are most candidates.

          What ‘transparency; does that self-indugent tripe offer Nest readers, appart from the fact that you appear a foaming moron? Your childish waffle about freedom of speech is clearly ignorant of the reality of The Nest … put brutally, The ‘Pie has no obligation to allow anyone to say anything they like, he is the curator of his own private blog with his own reasonable guidelines and where you abide by his clear rules or you don’t participate. There’s always Facebook for the likes of you.

          And just in case you don’t get the point The ‘Pie refers you to Brewsters comment posted a short time ago about his opinion of Ms Keune … it may or may not be bullshit, but it was an opinion he backed with a factual reason. Try it sometime, when you grow up.

        • Kenny Kennett says:

          This is not me. Someone is obviously using my name to go at you.

  18. Curious George says:

    The Townsville Bulletin has pinched the Magpie’s idea of asking for questions to put to mayoral candidates.
    From today’s Bully website:
    “The Townsville Bulletin, in conjunction with The Ville, will host a live stream mayoral debate on Tuesday 28, October from 11am and we are asking for your help.
    Today we are launching a survey to find out what you want to know from your mayoral candidates and will take the most important and most frequently asked questions from this survey and put them directly to every single candidate on the ballot.”
    Interestingly, two candidates have not yet agreed to take part.
    Wonder who they are.

    • The Magpie says:

      “Mayoral debate’? In this crowded shit show?

      Not sure how they think that will work … fine idea to ask the questions of them all, but ‘debate’ means back and forth, usually in a robust manner. This leaves all candidates open to a slickly worded, possibly untrue, jab which cannot be effectively countered on the spot, especially if someone like Jill Poulsen is the moderator. This will only work if candidates are allowed to answer the questions but are not involved in cross fire … seven people all disagreeing with one person at the same time will be completely unedifying.

      Even two person debates are generally not helpful, but fucking eight!?! If The ‘Pie were a candidate, or a candidate advisor, he would want to be crystal clear about the format before agreeing to participate, and if not clear, simply say he’d answer the questions only from an ‘independent’ (good luck with that) moderator..

    • The Magpie says:

      The ‘Pie is eagerly awaiting having his questions asked.

    • Guy says:

      Yeah, if I were running for mayor I’d tell the bulletin to fuck off as well

    • CCCwatcher says:

      Asking readers to submit questions for election candidates in either a Q&A or live debate is hardly a groundbreaking idea.
      Same thing happened in the last council election, the meet the candidates forum held at hte Ville with the chamber of commerce were a lot of reader questions.
      Fairly standard practice for most media outlets to ask their audience to submit questions. The Bush Summit was also same deal, people in the audience were able to ask questions through a QR code and they were asked on stage.

  19. Motorist says:

    On the subject of Air BnBs on Magnetic Island, during a recent visit, talking to a local on the ferry, she has to endure three short term rentals in a row in the court in which she lives. The owner of the three lives in Dubai and doesn’t give a shit. Only one of the three is recognized as short term rental so when there is frequent bad behaviour in the other two, Air BnB and the TCC take no action. It has made her life miserable and for other residents in the court with no apparent solution. I asked her if she had spoken to her local Councillor. She replied something like, “What, Ann-Maree Greaney?”

    • The Magpie says:

      Speaking personally, The ‘Pie doesn’t believe a single word of that.

    • Clarabelle says:

      Well I believe you, Motorist.
      And when is Council going to explain to us the newly added classification PARTY HOUSE? How is this going to work? Courtesy of Airbnb we already have party houses operating all around the world. How will Council’s be different?

      • The Magpie says:

        Maybe .. and just conjecture … that coukd mean a ‘share house’, this council might think that a rental property that is let out to say several students, or nurses, or other lownincome groups, should attract special attention.

        Of course, it would be to lower the rates because of the excellent effort to alleviate housing problem.
        Excuse MOI, why are you laughing?

        • Clarabelle says:

          No, Pie, it’s specified within the definition: bucks parties and hen’s nights; I kid you not. From our funky state government.

          • The Magpie says:

            Bucks parties and hen parties are on-off affairs, surely, and any problems are in the province of police and not local council. How does it work/ And it certainly can’t have anything to do with rate rates.

      • Motorist says:

        C,
        My wife’s gym friend’s main complaint was the loud music, voices, laughter, some fighting and suprisingly to me, the laundry washing machine going all hours. Frequently young people who, my wife’s friend assumed, cannot get a rental on the mainland for a week of horizontal folk dancing.

        • Maggie Moggie says:

          Motorist,
          No compaints from your wife’s friend of noisey wheeley walkers, or paramedics having to attend the premises and administer CRP for overdoese on those little blue tablets?
          And as for noisey washing machines – now they are a problem??

    • Maggie Moggie says:

      Motorist,
      these short term rental properties are hi maintenance – someone must manage them, providing cleaning and maintenance services, usually they are a real estate agent. They are ones who are paid to give a shit, has she complained to them?
      If your wifes friend is an adjoining owner she has every right to contact TCC re the owners address and complain directly to them.
      I am at a loss how your wifes friend would know only one property out of the three is identified as short term rental?

      A couple of weeks ago you commented in the nest you had visited to the island. Was it the same friend, who told you that the Sooning Bridge would probably never be replaced because council had resurfaced the detour streets?
      Has she relayed that to the Federal & State Govt? I’m sure they would like to hear for her because they committed $7.4million to build a new one – TCC received the monies in March.

      • Motorist says:

        MM,
        It was a chance meeting with a past gym friend of my wife on the ferry over to MI. I recounted some of the conversation we had and that is it.

  20. Bob says:

    Magpie, I see in the Bulletin online:

    Crisafulli lets mayors go rogue in sweeping reforms

    “Queensland’s mayors will be free to speak their minds and council watchdog powers will be wound back under sweeping reforms unveiled by David Crisafulli. But they come with a catch.”

    Does he mean they are going to release the CCC report on Mayor Thompson or what?

    • The Magpie says:

      Don’t see the connection … the CCC is a totally different entity.

    • Blue Bells says:

      Crisafulli is trying to reduce the vexatious reporting that is tying the OIA up and trying to reduce trivial matters that is keeping the local Govt. minister busy with crap. It will also allow Local Govts. to get on with the job instead of waiting for the OIA and Minister to clear the matter that was a deliberate ploy to impede progress. Mt. Isa Council comes to mind where there was constant bickering using this process.
      It is for current Mayors, so 2 names can stop his jump for joy and maybe realise it is not about him and he won’t get any compensation for it either, because he is not a Mayor, and has no right for compensation as he quit.
      The CCC is unaffected and the OIA can refocus on important complaints.

    • Clarabelle says:

      It sounds more like it should be known as The Tate Revision.
      Tom Tate gets referred to the OIA multiple times every year; he’s found guilty but there are never any repercussions. So what’s the point in pretending he’s accountable? As a poetic aside, the conference where Crisafulli made the big announcement was held on the Gold Coast.
      It’s also a big housewarming present to the Captain’s pick for Mayor of Townsville, Nick Dametto. Full steam ahead, Nick!

  21. Barfly says:

    Sounds like everyone on here is going to vote for the Donkey!

    • Guy says:

      Personally I’d make a rule that election advertisements can go ANYWHERE for the duration of an election as long as it doesn’t cover the information of a road sign.

      Let the electoral signage flow !!!

      Molochino was telling me a few elections back someone ( the council?) had ripped out all of his signs. Leave electoral advertising ALONE , its an election, advertising is expected to be everywhere. Unless theres a very good reason it should be left alone, if theres no real danger with leaving a trailer somewhere – so what.

      I’d go so far to say if you had something that can be washed off easily with water – PAINTING on something should be allowed.

      At the end of the election, with signs fluttering in the wind blowing down the road, trailers dumped everywhere, voting graffiti everywhere, there should be a moment of reflection where we stand back , hand clasped over our mouths and think ” my god – what have we done?!” – and this will be very good because it means we will be engaged for the first time in the voting process.

  22. Jatzcrackers says:

    I’ve had the opportunity of meeting Ms Keune at private social gatherings several years ago. She doesn’t suffer fools and she doesn’t take prisoners. Those who have been involved with Toastmasters world wide would know that public speaking taught is about listening as well as speaking. Keune in my opinion is excellent at this.

    During discussions/debate with her on a variety of subjects she’s an avid listener, asks for more info to back up your own claims and then openly agrees or disagrees with facts and details. She’s widely travelled internationally.
    Interesting to note in her comments here that she puts forward some clear points on what she’d like to see happen with the TCC and the councillors as apposed to often observed hanky wringing pointing out of the current problems and zero remedies to fix them.

    Her views of the councillors and TCC adopting an attitude of a business entity must be music to the Townsville publics ears.
    It is a multi million dollar business that in the past has been run by multiple shonks and self interested factions/individuals.

    One of the problems in society is that when institutions/governments/organisations start subjecting the public to relentless rubbish performances, the bar becomes so low for so long that the public accepts it as the norm. Bye bye Jenny hello TwoNames and how did that work out ?

    • The Magpie says:

      Runa as a business, sure, but the council … any council … should never take on the role of developer. One major problem is approvals … would they knock back their own proposals ever?

      • Jatzcrackers says:

        100% agree Pie. Being a successful developer take a lot more than just gaining approvals. Finding a mayor who would has some clarity about what council really should do and should focus on will be difficult. Because they have millions of dollars (rate payers contributions) doesn’t mean they can move out of their lane and start in fields they little knowledge of.
        Hopefully the new mayor will have some sensible perspective although it may all be wishful thinking !

      • Guy says:

        Government has never been a business nor should it be – why ? Because it doesn’t have the same cost versus benefit versus profit versus viabiliyy model as a business.

        If a business is unable to sell a product or service to the customer because no one wants it – it runs out of money, goes under and its ceo, managers and staff become unemployed.

        If Government is unable to sell a product or service to the customer that is blatantly unworkable and inheritently stupid nothing happens, it doesnt die – it continues , taxes go up, rights are taken away from you and if you dont like it you are imprisoned by a facist police dystopia – digital ID, enforced medical “treatment” , a de facto social credit score – but thats ok because 30% of the voting public said that was OK.

        The government has vastly more power over its customer base than the mightiest corporation. The system as it stands now is that tax payer money is used for corporate welfare, political expediency and propping up voter blocks; its why Australia is a land of the stupid that only makes holes and houses and takes on increasing debt at every level to achieve that.

        • The Magpie says:

          The TCC should be run on business ‘principles’, with the ratepayers as share holders who do not expect a cash dividend, just competence that the council’s income will be spent on the services they rightly expect and are entitled to. Theior board of directors are the councillors.

    • Guy says:

      Trump’s ballroom is wanton vandalism, its knocking down a historic building to build something that no one wants, its going to cost hundreds of millions at a time when that money would be better served by maintaining infrastructure and providing basic needs of the public.

    • I’ll be plucked says:

      Hey Alfie, Comb Over Albo and many, many world leaders and sycophants dance with Trump each and every day, haven’t you noticed? They are all shit scared of him!

  23. Hee Haw says:

    Maybe this is too picky but Dametto, and probably others, but I don’t see their posts like I do Dametto’s all the time, he is repeatedly posting facebook videos and post without any “Authorised by……..” statements on any of them, clear breach of the rules but I guess no one will care or act on it.

    Small matter I know but if rules are broken then what other rules will be ignored too once in office or just to get there?

  24. Prince Rollmop says:

    Pie, a question(s) to add to your comprehensive list;

    Councillor, what is your vision for TEL? Will you undertake a comprehensive review of its structure, governance, direction and funding? Will you consider a restructure, refinancing and introduce KPI’s and accountability which currently doesn’t exist?

  25. Critical says:

    This media statement about local government reforms was announced by the Premier on Tuesday.

    https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/103742

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Key changes proposed in the Empowering Councils Bill include:

      re-empowering councillors to appoint senior council staff, giving them a say in senior, strategic appointments to the council,

      clarifying the powers of the mayor and other councillors to provide certainty about their responsibilities,

      removing conduct breaches from the councillor conduct framework and streamlining training requirements, so councillors can focus delivering for their communities,

      allowing election candidates to include contact information other than their residential address, protecting the privacy and safety of participants, and

      making the conflict-of-interest framework clearer and more straightforward, to remove red tape from councillors without sacrificing integrity in government.

      Well thats just not problematic at all.

      Councillors shouldn’t be involved in the appointment of senior staff. It allows the administration to become political ( imagine a whole council of Troy Thompson appointments)

      And whats happening with conduct breaches? How can I now complain when another Troy Thompson breaches the code of conduct?

      Or is crisafulli making changes to protect these people?

      • The Magpie says:

        These charges are nothing short of amazing, and are certainly dressed up in language to hide their real intent.

        You can bet ‘making the conflict-of-interest framework clearer and more straightforward’ will see even tighter restrictions on council’s business dealings … an LNP government is not about transparency, particularly in business. But perhaps you are being a bit alarmist about senior staff appointments … this must surely mean that the already existing councillor powers of appointing and dismissing (non-renewal of contract) a CEO is being extended to senior staff appointments. By The ‘Pie’s reading this not mean that the mayor or councillors can actually put forward names to fill positions, just have a vote on the final recommended suggestion put to them from a list provided by a professional independent hiring organisation.

        And the breach removal bit could well be the harbinger of an unintended consequences outcome – aimed at freeing up the OIA (and to some extent the CCC) from the wave of nit-picking and local point scoring complaints, this measure may well foster minor corruption.

        And as your hypothetical ‘imagine a whole council of Troy Thompson appointments’, we have witnessed that with Mayor Mullet… she was smart enough to know all she had to do, with the assistance of state and federal Labor chums, was engineer the appointment of a tame CEO … and then be able to dictate whosoever they hired into the executive. Jenny had the Labor machine, Thompson has no such powerful machinery, just a band of 360-degree headspinners.

        • Pat Coleman says:

          A tribunal can’t be invested with judicial power.

          Even the consideration of what someone has said as a councillor requires the exercise of judicial power because it involves discussion of governmental and political information which falls under freedom of communication issues. That’s constitutional law whether or not the communication was protected.

          This, like it have repeatedly stated, the councillor complaints and conduct tribunal system is arguably invalid. And the chapter 3 issue around appeals to the high court.

          T

  26. Let me be clear…. says:

    Let me be clear, Troy is innocent. The real culprits in the demise of Troy Thompson are;
    John Oberhardt
    David Crisafulli
    Ann Leahy
    TCC CEO, Councillors and executive management
    The mainstream media
    Social media and blog sites

    And so the list goes on. All fully your honour. But not Troy. Troy has done no wrong. Troy is innocent. The whole world has conspired against a blameless and upright man.

    DEAR TROY. JUST FUCK OFF YOU GRIFTING TURD!!!

  27. OED says:

    Katter referred to International Criminal Court

    A submission has been lodged with the International Criminal Court (ICC) alleging that Katter provided “material support” to the Israeli Defence Force through his son-in-law’s company, Barrett Firearms Manufacturing.

    https://michaelwest.com.au/marching-for-australia-bob-katter-poster-boy-for-anti-immigration-and-weapons/

    • The Magpie says:

      Referred by whom? The ‘Pie has read the article – which is a series of drawing of some very long bows – and cannot see who has made the referral.

      Any clues?

      • Ducks Nuts says:

        Muslim community in Mareeba would be a good bet. Especially since they’ve tried to discuss with him and hes ignored them

        Also what about our wannabe Mayor’s connection?

        https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AFK21urf7/

        • The Magpie says:

          Maybe. But what connection are you referring to with the FB post?

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            The happy snaps with Barrett Firearms.

          • The Magpie says:

            That’s your case? Purleeesse.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            I’m not claiming photos are proof of criminality. What I’m saying is there’s a pattern worth scrutinizing.
            We’ve got:
            Katter’s family connection to Barrett through his son-in-law
            Our local wannabe mayor cozying up to the same company
            A community (possibly Mareeba Muslims) raising concerns and being ignored
            Youre right that the photos don’t prove material support. But they do show who’s in the room and who thinks these relationships are worth publicising. Shouldn’t we be asking questions?

          • The Magpie says:

            Let’s throw in the Katter bonanza of Copperstring while we’re about it. Katter relatives and at least one daughter are in clover … public money through Bob’s lobbying in parliament. Then Qld Labor chimed in to complete a very lucrative deal.

          • Ducks Nuts says:

            I’m happy to throw in whomever should be thrown in. A grift on public money is a grift on public money and people should be held accountable. I’d consider public floggings for those involved in white collar crime as it causes significant damage to society.

          • The Magpie says:

            Public floggings? Now you’ve got a certain section of Nest readers all excited, hot and bothered.

      • BlackDahlia says:

        This will be an LNP smear campaign against the Hinchinbrook KAP. He will try to demolish the KAP reputation now because he knows his LNP candidate doesn’t have a hope. You’d think he’d be more interested in going after Labor after what Cameron Dick exposed about him and his best friend yesterday.

  28. Prince Rollmop says:

    Magpies response to one of Guy’s insane ramblings;

    “The TCC should be run on business ‘principles’, with the ratepayers as share holders who do not expect a cash dividend, just competence that the council’s income will be spent on the services they rightly expect and are entitled to their board of directors are the councillors”.

    Very very well answered. You’ve got it one. This should be given to all the Councillors as part of their induction process because sadly a few of them have no business or real world experience. Ratepayers expect commonsense and measured fiscal management of their hard earned dollars. Too many councillors collaborate on pissing money up against the wall because in their eyes, it’s not their money, it is somebody else’s. Councillors are custodians and we expect better than we are currently getting.

    • Guy says:

      Shouldn’t the council have all the experts it needs already ? Considering the eye watering wages they are collecting.

      When I started my insane ramblings about council debt levels back in 2010 I was seen as crazy.

      They have NEVER paid the debt off, we have been with unsustainable debt since 2010

  29. The Magpie says:

    BD, way to long for comments, and anyway, it is not the Magpie’s practice to re-post entire cut and paste articles from MSM, too long and time consuming for readers. Please either send a ink to your story for publication, or do your own summary of whatever point you want to make.

    • Brewster says:

      The Bulletin has just show their bias, now we will never hear the end of it! I still think it’ll be; Dametto by a mile.
      In order, based on social media presence; Dametto, Thompson, Kippin, Kuene, Jacob, Greaney, Poulsen, Gleeson, Patel.

      • Achilles says:

        And a partridge in a pear tree!

      • Let Me Be Clear…. says:

        Let me be clear, the brain damaged Thompson won’t come in second. I put him further down the list. I think Kippin, Jacob and Keune will come in ahead of the democratically obsessed Thompson. Either way, as long as Townsville’s chief shyster doesn’t come first, I will be happy.

        • The Magpie says:

          Just askin’, but has anyone received their voting form in t he post yet? The ‘Pie hasn’t.

          • I’ll be plucked says:

            Yep, got it today Pie. Haven’t opened it yet, it ‘smells’ a little!!! :)

          • Ben Rumson says:

            Nope.

          • Blue Bells says:

            Haha no chance. It takes 2 weeks to get a letter across town to us. If we are on the ball our vote might count.

          • OED says:

            Yes mine arrived today.

          • Let Me Be Clear…. says:

            Mine arrived in the mail yesterday. Let me be clear, I will be ticking Thompson’s box last. I hope other people do the same. Bye bye Troy.

          • Russell says:

            Mine arrived Thursday. My wife has yet to receive hers. Maybe hers will arrive eventually?

          • The Magpie says:

            Maybe she’s not too upset, perhaps she used to waiting to get hers, which arrives eventually and occasionally.

            I’ll see myself to the door.

          • Troppo says:

            Gday Pie,
            Wife received her papers on Friday. Completed and in the post Saturday.

            For those not engaged – the fast food kid is on top with an optional preferential voting that could give him a few free votes

        • Charlie Wulguru says:

          Let me be clear (Out)….You called him the ‘Democratically obsessed Thompson’. Until a couple of weeks ago he was actually the Democratically elected Mayor of Townsville. I probably wont be voting for him, but a Fucking Hell of a Lot will. Just for that reason.

          • The Magpie says:

            Then this city will deserve its fate.

          • Bob says:

            We shouldn’t complain about the ECQ service. Nominations closed last Thursday 16th. Ballot papers would have then been mocked up, printed in their thousands, probably starting on Monday 20th and mated up with the rest of the gumpf and put into envelopes by Tuesday or Wednesday. The first of them were delivered to mailboxes by Australia Post on Friday 24th (according to ‘I’ll be Plucked’ and ‘OED’). If every registered address has received a ballot paper by next Friday 31st that will leave 15 days for voters to fill out ballot papers and get them back in the post. And ten more days for the posted ballots to get back to the ECQ. Surely that’s time enough?

          • The Magpie says:

            Yes, it is, who was ‘complaining’? Asking a question is not complaining.

          • Bob says:

            A number of business people and ratepayers have been complaining. One has to remember that the ECQ is a branch of government, and all governments and their departments are fucking useless and retarded so it wouldn’t surprise me if the ECQ make a balls up.

          • Let Me Be Clear…. says:

            He is obsessed with using the term ‘democratic process’. He just loves word salads and gets ChatGPT to do most of his work such as social media posts and his endless letters of complaint to government authorities and his alleged barrister.

      • Alahazbin says:

        Brewster, You’re kidding aren’t you? Two names second in line. Even Harry will get more votes than that megalomaniac.

  30. BlackDahlia says:

    I’ll send you a summary.

    • The Magpie says:

      Goodo, keep to your main point please.

      Come to think of it on second look, a link wouldn’t work, it’s from The Australian, which is paywalled, so wouldn’t open.

  31. Brewster says:

    4 debates confirmed:
    28th October 11am Bulletin @ the Ville
    28th October 5:30pm Chamber @ Brewery
    1st November 10am MIRRA @ RSL Maggie
    4th November Upper Ross Voice @ Upper Ross Community Centre

    Let the games begin.
    Dametto is well in front, Thompson falling behind, though the media statement this morning gained traction, Greaney has been bashed on social media, Kippin grinding away, and then there’s Kuene an ALP member ready to pounce and everyone’s buying into it. The rest are making up numbers. Harry rates a mention, 4 attempts, same shirt, same sign, same same. 24 days to go!

    • Bob says:

      Brewster, what yardstick are you using to form the view that Thompson is “falling behind”? Falling behind who – the whole field or just a couple of front runners? Is this just your imagination, today’s Bulletin headline or have you spilt tealeaves down your Facebook page? Surely you don’t think Thompson’s in this race?

    • Maggie Moggie says:

      All candidates have been invited to attend the MIRRA meeting on Sat 1st Nov 10am RSL Hall Hayles Arcadia.

      Each candidate will be given a maxium of 7 minutes to speak, and also take a couple of questions each from the floor.

      General Division 3 business will also be discussed at the meeting.

    • Toy Thompstain says:

      In regards to the debates I can’t wait to see Threenames debating and communicating verbally rather chan using ChatGPT and other forms of AI. He will stammer and stumble through the debate losing his place and forgetting his lies. Ha ha the dumbfuck.

      • The Magpie says:

        By all reports, he won’t be at any of them. Which is the best strategic move he’s made in 18 months.

        • The Magpie says:

          Whoops, spoke too soon, seems the Bulletin’s needled him into taking part in their knees up at the ‘Ville.

          • Brewster says:

            Ah, but will he show up, or will he live stream answers, to avoid the confrontation, nothing forces him to attend, I don’t think he will, it’ll be a late scratching.

          • Percy says:

            The fuckwit will utter the same old shit that he always talks about; ‘political interference from Brisbane’, ‘let me be perfectly clear’, ‘democratically elected mayor’, ‘ good people of Townsville’ and ‘what we need is transparency’. Same wank words that he always includes in his ramblings. He really has to be the most narcissistic individual I have come across in decades. I thought Malcom Turnbull, KRudd and Trump were bad enough, but Thompson takes the cake.

    • The Wulguru kid says:

      Greaney has been atrocious on Facebook. She looks like she has swallowed a doona and she can’t speak without reading from the autocue. Thompson’s interviews are worse, he just has a plastic frown and looks like he is about to have a seizure. He couldn’t smile if you paid him enough. Dametto doing ok, a natural in front of the camera, good communication skills. This is his election to win.

      • Ducks Nuts says:

        Speaking of swallowing things have you seen Kippin? Farrk me! The man looks like he swallowed an entire bottle of ballon gas.

        And Dametto just yells things at the camera that he thinks people want to hear. He probably has a hearing impairment from all the guns n ammo. A few more years and he’ll be just like Bob Katter. Yelling aimlessly at cameras, and threatening to punch reporters.

        • Percy says:

          Duckmeister, I noticed that also, the Kipper looks like he has been indulging in cheesecake, Tim Tam’s and some of Foodtruck Greaney’s cheesy lasagne. Regardless of outward appearance, he won’t win the race. His business acumen is somewhat lame, as is his track record. Besides, would the Mayors salary be enough to satisfy him. After all, this is the man who tried to strong arm TEL into paying him $1m per year, if the rumour is true!

      • Clarabelle says:

        One man’s great communicator is another man’s meathead.
        Dametto could use some training in body language. He’s repeatedly pictured in macho poses:
        Thumbs hooked on his pockets on ballot day, as in yeah, I’m looking for a fight; arms tightly crossed when advocating for state funding for roads; arms extended to the heavens in I can get esoteric funding to fix The- Strand- that-doesn’t- need- fixing.
        Perhaps if he hadn’t been so publicly anointed by his good old mate Crisafulli he might be perceived to be running on his own merits.
        There are any number of voters who are going to be repelled by Nick Dametto from the outset. He will have to pull a rabbit from a hat to redress that negative connotation .

        • The Magpie says:

          Maybe it’s an Ingham thing, but The ‘Pie noted first Dametto when pictured spruiking poor old Northern Beaches rackety rackey, and then in a separate story, Chiesa in a similar pose, but hands in pockets with thumbs out.

        • Ducks Nuts says:

          Ah yeah, the old thumbs in pockets, I’m a cowboy asserting my dominant masculinity pose. Dogs just piss on things so its obvious when there’s a male trying to assert dominance.

    • Abbe Faria says:

      Greaney is being subjected to persistent antagonism from rabid Troy Thompson supporters on Facebook. These individuals constitute the very same intellectually deficient cohort who habitually engage on his Facebook page and espouse unwavering allegiance to his delusions.

    • Bob says:

      Brewster, what time is the 4 November Upper Ross candidate show?

  32. Clarabelle says:

    Some development feedback from Magnetic Island: the proposed restaurant at 16 Marine Pde, Arcadia, has not bdeen approved. For those nesters who think island residents are intrinsically anti-development wet greenies, the potential for ecological damage was but one of the grounds.

    • The Magpie says:

      oh, praise be, here over the water, we’ve been worried sick about that, but finally mainlanders can get some sleep.

    • The bulldog says:

      Great, with the approval being kyboshed we will now have to listen to more endless whinging from the whingers on Magnetic Island. Seriously, go and watch some turtles laying eggs, or pick up some plastic from the foreshore, or maybe cash in some recycle cans, anything but your endless moaning.

      • Clarabelle says:

        You might have the wrong end of the stick, there bulldog. No moaning; celebration.
        Although the developer will probably go to the Planning and Environment Court to appeal. There, there’s a whinge for you after all.

  33. Tropical Cyclone says:

    25 patients have had gaps in their care from the urology dept of TUH. But the mayor’s race takes over and another failing by TUH is swept under the rug. Nothing to see here. WOW ?

    • The Magpie says:

      WTF are you dribbling about, bit early to be sniffing gunpowder, isn’t it? You certainly have earned the Uninformed Whinge of the Week.
      Front page of today’s Astonisher.

      …. And story on page 5 …

      …. And election free kicks on – gasp!! … page 6 ..

      • The Magpie says:

        But what’s the rush, we don’t have to vote for a mayor until 2027 … that is, according to the opening par of the main story above.

  34. The Magpie says:

    What does it say about three aspiring mayoral candidates who want us to believe they are law abiding, thoughtful people whose foresight and leadership we desperately need, who then flagrantly break the law in their quest for a vote?

    The North Ward roundabout on Eyre Street is one of the busiest roundabout in Townsville. THIS SIGNAGE IS NOT ONLY DANGEROUS, IT IS ILLEGAL.

    In 2019, when Jenny Hill was worried about rival signage, the council issued a warning: “A Townsville City Council spokesperson said Council crews would be removing any election material that was positioned in areas that are unlawful.
    “Council is very mindful that the community is subject to significant visual pollution during elections and we want to do what we can to reduce that impact,” the spokesperson said.
    “All candidates have been notified that Council crews will be removing election signs or material that are positioned in areas unlawfully.
    “Council crews will be patrolling the entire community from the city to the suburbs to ensure that candidates comply with the rules governing election campaign materials and the impact on residents is reduced.”
    Council crews can only remove illegal election signage on Council-owned land and assets.

    But ah ha, you might say, that’s not a council controlled road area. Well, maybe (honestly don’t know) but it doesn’t matter, Dametto, Kippin and Greaney are in the shit anyway with the DTMR, who make it clear this is a big – and potentially dangerous … no no.
    Election signs must not:
    • distract road users
    • obstruct road users’ clear line of vision
    • obstruct pedestrian or vehicle movement
    • block official road signs
    • otherwise cause a hazard to road users.
    If you would like to place election signs on state-controlled roads you must complete a self-assessment for each sign.

    These dangerously-positioned signs clearly do not meet the requirements of the first two bullet points. If there’s a prang, it will be interesting to see if those involved claim distraction … then the faeces will really hit the rotational cooling device.

    • The Magpie says:

      And just for the record, in the 15 minutes the Magpie was dicking around, dodging traffic to get these pix, well in excess of 100 cars used the roundabout. And it wasn’t peak hour by any means.

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      “The North Ward roundabout on Eyre Street is one of the busiest roundabout in Townsville.”
      Bit of a long bow there… I gather you dont get out into the suburbs much.

    • Clarabelle says:

      No sign yet of any distracting signage on Magnetic Island.
      Greaney would have to be a real sport to put her mugshot up.
      Some comments in the nest suggest the Greaney haters are all Troy Thompson supporters. This is far from the truth. She’s been the ineffectual Division 3 representative for nearly a decade. I would challenge anyone to cite a single example of her advocacy for her island electorate.
      She can’t manage one division; how is she thinking she can juggle nine others?

      • The Magpie says:

        The ‘Pie’s problem with Greaney is that she bhas clearly demonstrated she wants to be one of the executive, not one of the councillors. That alone is not what we need, apart from the fact that her ‘leadership’ skills are about zero.

        • Bob says:

          Don’t we want our councillors to be ‘one [with] the executive’? It’s not that the ‘executive’ has taken over, it’s just that there’s been a vacuum for the past two years while councillors have taken stock of their actual role and tried to work out who is in charge of the show. At least Greaney has established some level of competent chairmanship and demonstrated a functioning relationship with the CEO, something that was sadly lacking. I can’t believe that any ‘Nesters, who are of course ‘engaged, articulate, eruidte, inquiring, educated, civil etc’ (hahaha), could still believe that incompetent Thompson has anything to offer. If commenters turn into commentators and want to offer odds I think they should state up front how they will vote rather than how they think everyone else will vote. I’ll be putting Thompson last.

          • The Magpie says:

            Hmmm …. to answer your opening question, NO, we do not our councillors to be ‘one [with] the executive’, THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT WE DON’T WANT. It was your term ‘functioning relationship with the CEO’ that raises questions in the first place. When you land an over-padded salary with endless perks, it is human nature that your function turns to protecting your position, especially if you have bounding ambitions beyond the possum fur. And the line of least resistance in that scenario is to cosy up to the authority of the public service. Don’t worry about the current wannabbe clown in the chair, look at the past parade of incumbents.

            Executives are ruled by figures on paper, AI analysis devoid of everyday reality, and spreadsheets, driven by the best outcome for their standing with their superiors. They rarely let their vision get distorted by the untidy reality of everyday life and concerns. THAT IS THE COUNCILLORS JOB, to be the voice of the community, one not be overruled by the spreadsheet.

            If we take your view, we could save a whole load of money of eliminating mayors and councillors and just bring in an administrator. Then we could all pay a few bob to sit in our cars at a Strand parking meter to consider our how we will handle a 25% rate rise.

          • Bob says:

            Magpie, if a motion comes before councillors to, say, delegate certain functions to the CEO, no matter whose idea it is the councillors have complete autonomy to vote however they like and the ‘executive must carry out their instructions. Ie. the councillors and the executive are ‘at one’.

          • The Magpie says:

            A very naive view of political reality, Bob. Just for starters – and note The ‘Pie is not going to allow this into a long dreary thread – a CEO, his Legal Director and executive presenting councillors with a 1000+ page document of ‘delegated powers’ to the CEO tends to be an attempt to undercut that ‘autonomy’, especially when the acting mayor, the executive’s meter maid Greaney, tried to whack it through with no argument (she hoped). Robbo and Batwoman put an end to that, and highlighted what The ‘Pie has argued from the moment that particular issue came to light. McCabe, his executive and the Crisfulli Government tried to use the current turmoil swirling around council to blindside us with this hircine tactic, and further sideline councillors from meaningful decision. making..

    • Barfly says:

      Hey Magpie
      I think you are selective when it comes to pointing out when the law has been broken, especially when it has anything to do with Local Government.

  35. The Magpie says:

    Bulletin editor Jill Poulsen has really got her tits caught in the wringer on this issue of Thompson’s participation.

    In her red hot rush to lay in the boot, Poulsen slipped into the long outmoded attitude of by-gone media bullies, when she initially falsely claimed he had refused to ‘front a debate with eight other candidates’.

    But Poulsen, in her moist eagerness to slip in the knife, straight out lied … and then was dopey enough to prove that she had.
    In that same story, suggesting he was a cowardly cop-out, we learn what he actually said.

    So Poulsen has not only shown she is a first class fibber (to avoid the more succinct ‘liar’) she also committed what used to be a prime journalistic sin of selective bias in reportage.

    His Pomposity’s ‘need to check his diary’ certainly was outright wankery, but wanker or not, he had every right to see if he was legitimately committed to a prior engagement on that date, and be taken at his word in this circumstance. He never said no. It doesn’t matter what it may have been, a magic crystal convention, or panting along behind Michelle at Victoria’s Secret, or a boiling cauldron coven with his sov cit MyPlace mates, neither he or the other candidates are at the beck and call of the Bulletin. BUT Ms Poulsen seems to think he and the other candidates are to do her imperial bidding, when she plonked this simpering wet lettuce leaf attack in an editorial.

    DUTIFULLY?!? Bloody ‘dutifully’?

    Just who the fuck do you think you are, Jill? Even when major news outlets had that sort of gatekeeper power they NEVER EVER said it. And you sure don’t have it, the real votter decisions will be made via social media in 2025.

    There are plenty of legitimate grounds for Thompson to be ground back into Sir Walter Scott’s ‘vile dust from whence he sprung’ but to tell obvious outright lies could only engender some sort of skewed sympathy for a man who doesn’t deserve any.

    • Maximus says:

      The Bulletin are so entrenched in going after this twit that they are leaving themselves open for serious litigation. Thompson doesn’t have the money, that is clear, he has been out a lot, but his campaign has been more about media, social, radio, and live interviews, he is in his element, as even the caginess of Michael Clarke from the ABC couldn’t get him. I have noticed a change, he is playing the defensive bat, and diverting away from issues, I think the media, all of them would be better served to ignore him. Recently he has put out Media Releases, and they have been ignored, I think we can all see where this is headed, time for Townsville to move on.

      • Blue Bells says:

        If 2 names could take money off the Astonisher or anyone else for that matter, he would be there in a heartbeat, but he has no chance of an easy payout.
        It is more likely the Astonisher takes him for defamation, but they also realize it is counterproductive to take a broke unemployed person to court. If he suddenly came into money or power, then it could trigger an opportunity.

  36. Mass Debater says:

    Hmmm, if the former Mayor does turn up to the ‘debates’, I wonder what name they will use to introduce him? Twonames, Threenames, Barry or………:)

  37. Percy says:

    There is a great book called ‘The Sociopath Next Door’. It makes for far better reading than any crap that Threenames has just authored. In fact the book could very well be about ol Threenames himself. And this whole story about his book release is quite amusing. Seriously, who would want to read annyrhing about Toy other than his obituary? An egotistical muppet who thinks that his life has a Peter Foster clone is of interest to the general public. Will he do a book signing, signing under different names? Who cares, we just want this freak to disappear.

    • Bob says:

      Can’t believe how much emotional energy you are wasting, Percy. RUOK?

      • Percy says:

        I’m fine thanks Bob. I’m not emotional, however I am passionate. Don’t get confused. Words on paper don’t always capture true feelings. I also care about our city, it may not be perfect but it is home. We don’t need a grifter and conman leading our town, so I am passionate about that.

  38. Toy Thompstain says:

    Troy’s new book will be called “1000 ways to gaslight’. Based on the actions of himself. There will be chapters on gaslighting, financial mismanagement, lying and deceit, mental impairment, domestic violence, ChatGPT is my friend and cancer survival. The book, mostly fictional and full of lies, will be a must-have for those in society who are seeking a cheap laugh at a mentally stunted serial bullshit artist.

    • The Magpie says:

      The ‘Pie who has a little bit to do with the publishing industry, will be curious to see which house is willing to put its name to what will inevitably a mix of outright garbage, sophisms and fridge door philosophy. The ‘Pie’s bet is self-published, or of a special imprint belonging to the MyPlace whackos.

  39. Maggie Moggie says:

    Where’s Nick? Is this blatant bias? Or just another incompetent cock-up?

    • The Magpie says:

      Despite the composition of the photo looking like Dametto has been airbrushed out, most likely some sort of cock-up, can’t see the paper doing this deliberately. And remember, FB is run by kiddies. But in the midst of a crucial political campaign, it is a blunder of major proportions, and could have repercussions for the Astonisher … if Nick gets in, as is likely, iditor Jill Poulsen is going need to have her lips glued to Nick’s nether regions to make good.

      BTW an apology would be what decency demands, but then again, we are talking about a Murdoch publication.

    • Craig Jenny says:

      Jesus, what happened to Kippin? Has he swallowed a hot air balloon? His belt size is equator. He makes Greaney look like an Ethiopian.

      • Rotten Luck Willie says:

        Hello Jenny,
        About 35 years ago myself and my son, 10 at the time, were asked to leave the waiting room/reception area of one of your weight loss centres. My wife was having a consultation in a back room somewhere. Self and son were passing the time eating donuts from a large paper bag, watching your clients come and go, till we were asked to leave.
        I still love a good shit stir.

        • BlackDahlia says:

          That’s not funny. Just cruel and nasty. Making fun of people when they’re feeling vulnerable and trying to get help with their weight makes you a small person. I’m sure your wife felt incredibly embarrassed too.

      • BlackDahlia says:

        It’s definitely not ideal is it. For his health, but mainly because the job he wants requires endless energy and motivation. He won’t be able to do the job that needs to be done. There is no way possible. You really need to be at least energetic and ready to go to many events and deal with a lot of issues, people and emergencies all day every day. This position needs someone who can do that. And being this out of shape is a reflection of someone’s mental state. If they can’t control their dietary habits and commitment to health, how will they control nearly a billion dollars in Council ?

        • The Magpie says:

          That last nonsensical line lets down what had been a reasonable albeit debatable argument. Look up our favourite word around here, ‘eristic’.

  40. Critical says:

    Let’s move away frol politics for a while and read how our medical histories and information is being used by AI without us knowing. A bit scary really.
    Warning, this is a long article to read.

    https://www.choice.com.au/data-protection-and-privacy/data-collection-and-use/how-your-data-is-used/articles/ai-used-by-medical-professionals

    • Ducks Nuts says:

      Crits until the Australian government makes regulation around data privacy mandatory and applicable to SME’s and startups we are all exposed. The government is currently reviewing this. But in regards to AI, so far the approach to regulation has been that its a voluntary regulation framework. A total crock because unfortunately there are too many unscrupulous, unethical players and quite a number of just plain ignorant people playing in the AI space.

  41. Clarabelle says:

    Pie
    Is it possible Greaney is throwing the match ?

    Today’s Bulletin outlines her election promises. She’s going to lure families back to the CBD with a new kids’ playground.
    There’s not much airflow one block back from the Strand. Where there is already both a playground and a well-patronised waterpark. Where she wanted to introduce parking metres.
    Complimenting the new CBD play hub is a proposal for CBD parking refunds: buy something in a shop and you don’t have to pay. Will you be issued with a receipt if your kid goes down a slippery slide?
    Will the new playground be air-conditioned, making it fabulously expensive to establish and run; or will it be a white elephant for nine months of the year?
    This stuff is not coming from a novice.

    • The Magpie says:


      Having read that story, the whole this is laughable but infuriating nonsense. But two things jumped out at The ‘Pie.

      It seems Poulsen has her riding orders to back Dametto and oppose Greaney. But is The ‘Pie crediting the paper with a subtlety hitherto unknown. Take this Greaney quote:
      “We see it at Riverway in those green spaces where, you know, it’s sort of a safety aspect as well that, you know, mums and bubs, you know, have a place to enjoy a coffee and some time out with that validated parking,” she said.

      While they do so more for their readers sake than their subjects, reporters usually drop verbal tics like ‘ummm’, ‘err’, and repeated unnecessary connecting phrases like ‘sort of’ and ‘you know’, but in this story, four times in a single sentence we get ‘sort of’ and ‘you know’, which makes Greaney sound like a woman who doesn’t really know what she’s trying to say. Which she clearly doesn’t.

      It is a given in the industry that a subtle way of editorialising against someone on any matter is to really quote them verbatim – the gurgling tee-heeing Bob Katter comes in for this treatment regularly.

      This whole story is a campaign disaster, proof of a candidate without a cause, floundering around for something meaningful say. And meaningful is what she avoids at all times in the deeply ridiculous vague policy search that is hardly of majority interest to beaten down residents.

      She doesn’t say how the validated parking scheme could work, or if businesses doing the validation will be the ones eventually charged for parking instead. And a fucking kids playground, FFS!!!

      And Greaney airily dismisses the idea that she might’ve thought to cost this out, with the paper reporting “On the costs for the plan for parking validation, Ms Greaney said all council projects will be considered in the Mid Year Budget which is coming up at the beginning of 2026″. That is one of the most blatant non-answers worthy in it’s lofty arrogance of Capt Snooze Reynolds, and begs a major question that the Bulletin yet again did not ask. So it is likely to cost anything, or more likely, being so deliberately vague, dumped altogether.

      There’s more but suffice to say, Ann Maree Greaney is a deeply stupid woman way out of her depth as she desperately tries to seek relevance to gain an office she just deeply believes it is her’s by right. Her attacks on Dametto show she has panicked, and that she also see the Chamber of Commerce’s candidate, Michelin Man Kippen, taking votes from her narrow view of her constituency. She has shown no inkling that this is a city wide contest which comes with city responsibilities and city wide concerns. She has also been spooked by the vociferous attacks from magnetic Island, whichb is her divisional turf.

      And she hasn’t the wit to realise that meaningless word salads like this do one thing only … they help the arsesole in the race, Thompson, by comparison … what Thompson says is wrong, unworkable and populist crap but he broadcasts his message in plain everyday language, making false promises in words that people can understand if not interpret for their real worth.

      We’re still paying this silly individual to be deputy mayor and a councillor, so she should have the decency to step aside from this race, stop making a ninny of herself and be happy with her swindled wage.

  42. Ben Rumson says:

    Regarding an informed electorate, my neighbour from the Eastern side came over to discuss the fence, trees and other matters.
    He noticed my Troy Thompson Keep Out sign on my gate, as fearured on the Nest last week. Says neighbour, “who’s Troy Thompson? ”
    I am not critical of my neighbour. He works early, long and hard hours, and there is disability in the household.
    I expect he and his household will receive in the post, voting papers. In my neighbours case, they are oblivious to the Three Names shit fight and the subsequent by election.
    While the Nest is engaged, articulate, eruidte, inquiring, educated, civil, and I expect good company at a slow cooked beef brisket dinner with copious amounts of Squealing Pig shraz, many folks are igornant or disengaged. They will, if they vote……………… Well, the danger of ignorant people in large numbers.

  43. Long neck says:

    We just received the first of our family’s election voting forms in the mail box today.

    Is it just me, or is it concerning that in this day and age our personal details (full name, DOB & full address) are on the outside of the envelope for anyone who handles the envelope to see?

    • The Magpie says:

      Your date of birth is on the outside of the envelope? Why would that be?

      • Long neck says:

        Sorry, my bad… there’s another envelope it goes in for postage. I got a bit carried away, and shot from the hip.

        But I still don’t know why they need that information to be on the voting envelope when there’s a bar code that should be enough

  44. Long neck says:

    That’s the envelope that the vote is returned in

  45. Miss Lou Two says:

    There are 3 registered voters in my household. Only 2 postal votes arrived yesterday.

    • The Magpie says:

      Are they all registered to that address?

      • Miss Lou Two says:

        Yep. And for the State Election we all applied for a postal vote – and received the ballot papers in the post on the same day.

    • Achilles says:

      Does the 3rd recipient have the same surname as 1 and 2? I’m reliably informed the envelope computer will print in alphabetical order.

      This may also explain why the Pie hasn’t got his yet, with W at the end of the final batch…….maybe!

  46. Biame says:

    Good morning all, our acting mayor is gracing the pages of the Bulletin spruiking her “gifts” to the city, mayors Christmas tree appeal plus her vision for the city., two separate articles. Wonder will other candidates get as much exposure!

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